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Old 10-15-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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That's different. Yes, you can tell whether 2 people are related, but ethnicity is a little trickier.

If 2 people share 50% of their dna, then you are looking at a parent or a child of the subject. Where said dna originated is another matter.
One of the factors that is used in family analysis would indeed be the identification of gene sequences that are closely identified with a particular ethnic group. Plenty of these sequences are known. We are still talking about what is known about the human genome, the standard DNA tests, and the standard ways that the data is analyzed. If you accept that genetic testing can identify even distant family members, and that the same process can identify the probability that an unknown suspect is likely to be of Asian or African ancestry, how can you not accept the results of Warren’s test?

Take a look at this article, and also read the associated articles. Then read the pdf of Warren’s genetic analysis.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/s...old-cases.html
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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So she was looking for other liars?
She was looking for other law professionals who had Native American ancestry.

She's not a liar. But your denial of the FACTS may be inferred as a sort of lying.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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Wow, so the Trumplings are already out in full force spinning this story LOL. Donald Trump has trolled Elizabeth Warren for years now, teasing that she isn't NA and calling her "Pocahontas."

So Warren takes a DNA test proving that she DOES have NA in her and that Donald Trump lied and got exposed for it.

This whole Warren/Native American situation just blew up in Donald Trump's face and tosses poop on his face just weeks before election time. Well played, Warren. Well played. ::golf clap::

When you have no response to the subject matter and instead change the subject to address something else, you've lost.
Fauxahontis has been being called that WAY before Donald Trump. She has been known by that for years in Massachusetts.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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Ouch. Pretty big LOSS for Trump, he's been hounding Warren forever about her heritage and to take a DNA test. Doesn't matter how little Native American might be in her DNA, Warren DOES have NA in her.

VERY smart move by Elizabeth Warren to do this now, weeks before midterms. Just further shows that Trump is a lying piece of trash who insults women and has no idea what he's talking about.
You seem to be thinking like back in the day when lying, insults and ignorance were something people looked down upon, back in the days when people would try to hide serious short-comings or justify wrong-doing, with good old-fashioned cover ups...

Today is a new day, with Trump. At least for Trump and his supporters, these kinds of short-comings are to be championed. The more the better! Each one defended by Trump's supporters like OJ's defense team. Something like drunken frat boys bound and fueled by whatever their agenda regardless of everyone else. No criticizing your own fraternity! We all know how it goes, until it gets shut down.

"University of Michigan: Amid allegations of sexual misconduct, hazing, heavy drinking and druggings, UM's student-run Interfraternity Council voted to suspend all Greek social activities until further notice on Nov. 9. The IFC said it's now doing a "chapter-by-chapter assessment and charting a safer path forward." "

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...017/875699001/
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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So why did she put on her applications???
She didn't.

Where's that CNN quote you're looking for?
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: NY/LA
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So why did she put on her applications???
Are you sure? The Boston Globe actually looked up the applications, which you can read for yourself.

A sampling of Elizabeth Warren’s past applications, documents

Their conclusion:
Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law

I also posted this previously (from The Atlantic):

"Warren, who graduated from the University of Houston in 1970 and got her law degree from Rutgers University in 1976, did not seek to take advantage of affirmative action policies during her education, according documents obtained by the Associated Press and The Boston Globe. On the application to Rutgers Law School she was asked, "Are you interested in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?'' "No," she replied."

From: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...r-what/257415/
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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As analyzed by Legal Insurrection:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/1...y-to-the-hype/

From the Boston Globe article, comes this admission that savagely undermines their own premise that Fauxcahontas actually has any Native American ancestry at all:

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Detecting DNA for Native Americans is particularly tricky because there is an absence of Native American DNA available for comparison. This is in part because Native American leaders have asked tribal members not to participate in genetic databases.

“The tribes have felt they have been exploited,” explained Lawrence Brody, a senior investigator with the Medical Genomics and Metabolic Genetics Branch at the National Institutes of Health. “The amount of genetic data that is available from Native Americans is sparse.”

To make up for the dearth of Native American DNA, Bustamante used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to stand in for Native American. That’s because scientists believe that the groups Americans refer to as Native American came to this land via the Bering Straight about 12,000 years ago and settled in what’s now America but also migrated further south. His report explained that the use of reference populations whose genetic material has been fully sequenced was designed “for maximal accuracy.”
Thus, as we can plainly see, the genetic markers identified as Native American in Fauxcahontas' DNA test are just as likely to be associated with Mexican, Peruvian or Colombian extraction. In other words, she is as likely to be 1/1024th Mexican as 1/1024th Native American.

At the end of the day, we are left with the following:

1. Warren still cannot point to any specific ancestor who was Native American.
2. Warren never lived as a Native American or associated with Native Americans.
3. Warren never claimed to be Native American until her late 30s.
4. Warren only used alleged Native American status for employment purposes, and stopped claiming that status when she got tenure at Harvard Law School.
5. There remains zero evidence Warren was a descendant of the Cherokee or Delaware tribes.
6. The DNA test does not prove Warren is Native American, at most there is “strong evidence” of a single ancestor dating back 6-10 generations, based on an analysis that compares Warren’s DNA to numerous groups, including non-Native American groups.
7. The media headlines overstate the findings.
8. Warren almost certainly is running for president, and rolled out these findings in a highly controlled and slick production for that purpose.

Given these massive, insurmountable doubts, it would probably be more appropriate for Princess Lie-A-Watha to write a check for $1,000,000 to Donald Trump.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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.0024.... LOL
20-30 generations back... She really is Pocahontas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, let's tell our kids they are redskins to lower their self esteem over the generations, so they too can be a second class citizens. Like that happened. My granny told me... Sure.


.0024 would never get you onto a reservation, much less Affirmative Action.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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Trump said today that he never offered money for proof. what a liar.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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She was looking for other law professionals who had Native American ancestry.

She's not a liar. But your denial of the FACTS may be inferred as a sort of lying.
The FACTS prove that she's not a Native American Indian by any stretch of the imagination, even a liberal one. She was looking to take advantage of being a racial minority in an environment where that is seen as a benefit but she was called out for being a liar.
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