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FWIW, Norway and Sweden have full Right to Roam - you can hike and camp (for one night) on uncultivated land anywhere. Hefty fines for campfires in summer or leaving trash behind, as it should be.
Oh, hell no. What is "uncultivated" to someone else is my carefully stewarded forest. I'm the one paying property tax on it, and despite the fact that it looks wild, we select harvest some trees and control for pests.
Oh, hell no. What is "uncultivated" to someone else is my carefully stewarded forest. I'm the one paying property tax on it, and despite the fact that it looks wild, we select harvest some trees and control for pests.
The bold is much of the point, which is excellent, by the way. If you want to use my private property for your own use, YOU pay the property tax on it.
So I found this about an Emerald Isle lawsuit. Maybe this has been posted earlier in the thread, sorry, I didn't read through it all.
The solution seems remarkably simple. Don't allow private owners to own beach property, from the dune area to the mean water mark. State take imminent domain of the property, and then the current owners won't have to maintain it or pay taxes on it.
Done.
Personally, I really can't stand the thought of huge swaths of beach front property sucked up by private owners. Jacksonville Florida has the worst beach laws I've seen - miles and miles of beautiful beach all privately owned. In one area, there's a tiny amount of public beach but there's no parking. So while technically it's public, there's no way to get there.
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My property's for my use ONLY to the extent that I don't renege on my duties to society (pay my fair share for police and military protection, a justice system, government-built infrastructure, flood protection [BIG, BIG deal in the location of my property, believe me]). And that's just when I use property in ordinary ways (read: I never use it in extraordinary ways). It would be a rightful denial of my use of my property if I used it for toxic or nuclear waste, hosted a prostitution house on it, or blasted music at 100 decibels from it.
What if someone used their property to house illegal immigrants? Wouldn't it violate their property owner's rights if the police raided their place? If you think nobody should use their property to house or support illegal immigrants, then you admit some things ARE more important than an individual's property rights.
So I found this about an Emerald Isle lawsuit. Maybe this has been posted earlier in the thread, sorry, I didn't read through it all.
The solution seems remarkably simple. Don't allow private owners to own beach property, from the dune area to the mean water mark. State take imminent domain of the property, and then the current owners won't have to maintain it or pay taxes on it.
I agree. That is the solution. But think about what you're saying. The state would have to pay just compensation as required by the 5th Amendment to take all that privately owned property. Easily in the billions if not trillions of dollars. How does that get funded?
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If you want to use my private property for your own use, YOU pay the property tax on it.
