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View Poll Results: Is private property open for all to use, at will?
Yes 2 1.74%
No 113 98.26%
Voters: 115. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-16-2018, 07:16 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The commies are coming for your private property! They will redistribute it to “those people.”
If it weren't my sole financial responsibility and "those people" pay for what they use, I would have no objection. Pay me my 5th Amendment just compensation, and it's all good. Release me from the responsibility of cleaning up trash left on my property and paying a service for garbage/recycling collection, and we're all good. Get it?
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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You'd mind if they were leaving behind trash, which the OP has complained about previously.
Of course I would.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:22 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If you bought the land under terms that it was usable by the public up to a high water mark, why are you complaining?
I did not. There is no registered or recorded public use easement on my land. There is only a very small utility easement, street-side, on my land.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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What say you all?

Backyards? Pools in backyards? Etc.? Community property, to be used by any and all at will? Or private property?
That depends what is your party affiliation.

If you are a Democrap, it's yours and yours only; if you are a Republican, it's everyone's.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What's your point regarding privately owned property that doesn't have a public use easement?
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: NC
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I was going to say the same thing about context myself. Ordinarily, private property is just that, private. there have been cases in rural areas where if a pond or river is only accessible through private land, the land owner is supposed to set up a way to get to that pond or lake via their property. Also, I know of a cemetery here in my town much the same as that pond. You have t go through someone's yard to reach it. The cemetery is old and on the site of a church that has not been there I years, but the property owner still has to allow access.

Also, hunting rights. Private property means nothing (here in NC) to hunters. And I think, or at least they tell me, that it's backed by the law. I live in the city now, so it doesn't matter, but when I lived in the country, you could not legally ask a hunter to leave your property unless it was posted as no trespassing. I had a state trooper (friend) tell me that he had a gun put in his face once for asking someone to leave, and the law was on the side of the hunter.

(I'm in favor of hunting, as long as you eat what you kill, but the amount of entitlement and lack of respect is baffling. Even if there is no law to back it up, it seems a good "individual rights" conservative would respect someone's property, especially if asked politely to leave. But not so much.)
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: NC
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That depends what is your party affiliation.

If you are a Democrap, it's yours and yours only; if you are a Republican, it's everyone's.
SO you wouldn't care if I came into your backyard, stretched out a chair, opened a few beers and hung out while you and your family were having Sunday Breakfast? I'll clean up after myself. Glad to know, and glad to know I don't even need to let you know I'm there, because "It's everyone's", including mine.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Dry sand beach in a coastal state. According to all documentation, dry sand beach is privately owned up to the officially recognized mean high water mark in most states (19 year epoch), and up to the low water mark in some states (Virginia, etc.). Owners pay property tax on the land, are responsible for the maintenance, waste collection and disposal on the land, etc., but some municipalities insist that privately owned land is open for public use, at will.
Sounds like those land owners need to have a serious discussion with the mayor and city council.

So, why do you think this local issue rates space here instead of in the forum for that locality?

Just sayin'...

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Old 10-16-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I did not. There is no registered or recorded public use easement on my land. There is only a very small utility easement, street-side, on my land.
Was there a public use law of the beach up to high tide in existence before you bought it?
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