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there are a lot of things not to like about trump but the alternative is far worse. if there was a at least somewhat fiscally conservative democrat that could heal some of the division in this country i would consider voting for them. that's not what the democrats are about these days though quite the contrary.
It is NOT just the Democrats who are not able to bring about fiscal responsibility. Anyone who knows how tax and spend legislation tends to go, no way no how are Republicans less guilty! Begin to better balance your perspective about this as we all should, and we begin to better understand what the problem(s) REALLY are, who is to blame and why.
Putting immediate blame on either party for a systemic problem only serves to divert attention from where it needs to be. Both parties vote for spending, but on different things, and since neither is willing to compromise, we spend all the more, because it's easier to just let future generations deal with the consequences. We make it their problem rather than ours. Simple as that, conservatives and liberals alike...
Or a fiscally conservative Republican (and I don't really put Trump in this category). That moderates are being winnowed out for extremism in all shapes and sizes is the enemy worth putting fists up for IMHO.
I think this term, "fiscally conservative" tends to be a catch-all term that conservatives managed to coin for themselves, but really we would all love to see our finances in good order. It's just like liberals or conservatives with credit cards. Some run up their credit card bills for purposes of immediate gratification while others think about the future. Conservatives are no better in these regards than liberals, or so my CPA tells me...
Cynicism in the appropriate doses no doubt is called for and so why anyone feels the need to line up behind any particular politician or party with fists drawn is beyond me.
OTOH ... we have one politician who has well profited from promoting that stance.
For some reason, folks just love that crap. But to answer the OP ... we have one family member who supported Trump, although so late to the game that he didn't vote for him (wrote in Rubio). Still, he converted with glee. Today, he's so embarrassed by Trump's personal ineptness that he can't quite bring himself to now talk about anything political. That said, he'd probably vote for Trump in 2020 if only to avoid voting Democratic.
I'm more embarrassed by what the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the DOJ, the Obama Administration, the Clinton Foundation/Campaign, etc. is getting away with.
I'm proud of what Trump is generally doing, namely lowering taxes, hiring SCOTUSes, killing terrorists...
Imagine what he can do once the "Intelligence" Community is brought to justice.
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And lets not forget he lost by 2M votes....oh yeah I forgot they were all fraudulent votes. LMAO. See what I mean...only in politics is STUPIDITY not only expected but fostered
We count electoral votes, but just curious, at what instant in time did you realize that President Donald J Trump won the 2016 Presidential Election? Or have you?
Is there anything or anyone critical of Trump who is not considered somehow suspect by Trump supporters? Is it impossible for Trump supporters to believe people are just not into Trump, even among those who don't lean liberal?
This is a great question.
In my opinion Fox News has done a great job at demonizing and even dehumanizing the left, even though "the left" as one unified ideological group (that includes everyone from those even slightly critical of Trump to ANTIFA thugs) doesn't exist in the way Fox News has convinced its viewers that it does. This has worked for rallying and energizing the conservative base around Trump.
Funny....the Dems can't produce a single person capable of beating him...what's that say about them?
Let's see...
You got Hillary two times
Corky Cortex
Diane Frankenstein
Nancy Spillocy
Creepy Joe
Mad Maxine
....Their only hope is to pull a nobody from nowhere at the last minute like they did with Raping Bill and Muslim Obama...hoping to push them into power before anyone knows who they really are. Kinda like Obamacare....gotta pass it to see what's in it. Dems can't win on their agenda...they have to hide what they are until it's too late.
How do you know this?
I mean, who, other than Clinton, has ran against him? And, even she got more of the vote than he did, just not enough of the EC, so it's not like the American voting public made their support of him solid and clear. It was a toss up.
Why do you think nobody will appear before 2020 that will be someone the Democrats can run against Trump (if he runs again) and beat him?
That's really an argument with no basis at all, as it's not like he's run twice, been elected by a landslide, had a full mandate, and made it clear that the Democrats are incapable of producing a candidate who can defeat him.
Until they told him he won on election night in 2016, he was still chatting up his line about how the Democrats planned to cheat him out of winning. He had NO CLUE he'd actually win and I invite you to go back and take a look at the first views of the orange drained right out of his face when he realized he'd won if you need hard evidence.
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Until they told him he won on election night in 2016, he was still chatting up his line about how the Democrats planned to cheat him out of winning. He had NO CLUE he'd actually win and I invite you to go back and take a look at the first views of the orange drained right out of his face when he realized he'd won if you need hard evidence.
I really don't think Trump actually expected or even wanted to win. What he wanted was a show on Fox News to promote his ideology and he likely would have got it had he lost the election.
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