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Old 10-17-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: In Your Head
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Thanks for reminding me that this kind of sick thinking wasn't exterminated in 1945.
I know right, in South Africa they are killing Boer farmers and in Zimbabwe they also killed white farmers and both took away their land but hey Europa for everyone at the cost of the worlds minority group, right?
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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There very much is, and it should have been tried after the vote. There needed to be a second "are you sure" type referendum, but again May lacks courage. Winston Churchill, she most definitely is not
Too late. Article 50 is invoked, it's not reversible. May, thinking she could ride the populist wave to a comfortable majority, started the countdown and figured she could make a plan later. Guess what? - later is now. If the Brexit referendum was the drunken revelry, the June 2017 election was the electorate's reaction to being presented with the bar bill while sober and hungover. In other words, May was given a terrible beating and had to shop around for support.

The UK could ask the EU to be let back in, of course - Boris Johnson would love that, he could ride the discontented Brexiteer vote right into Downing Street and feed their resentment while not doing any of the hard work involved in actually exiting the EU - that was his original plan, after all. Note how fast he ran away when it dawned on him that his rabble-rousing worked better than expected?

May is still pretending the Chequers deal has a chance of going anywhere (it doesn't), and the actual deal that's being discussed in Brussels is going to be even less palatable to the Brexit crowd.

Turns out that "Up yours!" isn't an actual worthwhile political stance, who could have guessed?

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Old 10-17-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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The majority of Brits now want to stay in the EU. If they decide to not exit after all, what's it to you? Britain has a right to make their own decisions.
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In that case, what's it to you?
Like any socialist/communist they envision a global government some day such as in SciFi movies like Star Trek with the earth governed by Star Fleet and the Federation of Planets.
Most leftist people welcome such a world, but the goal for the time being is to take power away from individuals, for the "common good of the collective".

I imagine many Brits wised up in the nick of time, but are now fighting the Soros forces and funding trying to win the hearts and minds with leftist propaganda, to reverse what was already voted on.
So posters like JAMS14 are ideologically aligned with such things, just like they supported Castro, Chavez or any other leftist/communist run society.

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Old 10-17-2018, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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When President Trump won his election, do you feel there should have been another 'are you sure' vote? We had a democratic vote, and the vote was to leave the EU.

How many votes do you think we should have? Keep having them until the vote is remain? What about if another vote is close, but going to remain? Do you feel we should then have another vote, best out of three?
And if only the US had a referendum like the UK. Trump would have lost. You are lucky they gave every person a vote.
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:12 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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You do understand that Merkel, backed by the money of George Soros (a Hungarian Jew), allowed over 1 million Muslim men, most in the 20s, to come into Europe unchecked? Once in the EU these Muslims, along with the millions of Africans Soros and the EU have allowed in over the years are allowed to settle wherever they like. Bottom line is Europe is for Europeans and no one else. The British finally realized this and voted to get away from the globalists and their goal of European genocide.
Can you provide proof that Soros provided money to Merkel? Please be specific and don't tell me to look it up myself. You claimed it so the burden is on you.

Soros the Boogeyman!
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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Like any socialist/communist they envision a global government some day such as in SciFi movies like Star Trek with the earth governed by Star Fleet and the Federation of Planets.
Most leftist people welcome such a world, but the goal for the time being is to take power away from individuals, for the "common good of the collective".

I imagine many Brits wised up in the nick of time, but are now fighting the Soros forces and funding trying to win the hearts and minds with leftist propaganda, to reverse what was already voted on.
So posters like JAMS14 are ideologically aligned with such things, just like they supported Castro, Chavez or any other leftist/communist run society.

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LOL! Wow, you packed in every right wing, fear-mongering talking point you could fit in there, didn't you? Kudos for that wonderful piece of fiction.

Meanwhile, it is absolutely true that the majority of Brits don't want Brexit to happen. You can't wave that away with a bunch of right wing hooey no matter how hard you try.

One thing we agree on is that the majority of Brits definitely have wised up, but it might not be in the nick of time. Their awakening might have come too late.
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:41 AM
 
Location: England
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LOL! Wow, you packed in every right wing, fear-mongering talking point you could fit in there, didn't you? Kudos for that wonderful piece of fiction.

Meanwhile, it is absolutely true that the majority of Brits don't want Brexit to happen. You can't wave that away with a bunch of right wing hooey no matter how hard you try.

One thing we agree on is that the majority of Brits definitely have wised up, but it might not be in the nick of time. Their awakening might have come too late.
Looks pretty close to me..........


https://www.politico.eu/article/poll...y-deal-remain/
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: moved
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It's hard to figure out at this point what the upside of Brexit would be for Britain.
The "upside" seems to be a cultural and emotional one. It allows the so-called downtrodden to thump their chests and to loudly exclaim that finally they've been heard. Rah rah rah!

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This was a foolish vote by the same kind of fools who gave us Trump, while a complacent electorate didn't bother to go to the polls. The difference is, we will not be saddled with our idiot forever. A hard Brexit is going to hurt the U.K. for years and years to come.
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...The British people ignored for decades came out to vote. Many who had not voted for many years, as they considered it a waste of time. The ones who saw their towns invaded by foreigners. The ones who saw their schools full of the children of immigrants. The ones who saw their doctors surgeries and hospitals full of foreigners. The ones who saw wages depressed by foreigners willing to work for minimum wage. The ones who saw their rents continuously increasing because of inflated demand. The ones who were sick of hearing EU officials telling them the immigration without end would continue.
That’s the essence of it. Trump’s antics and prevarications have been a distraction, from the real issue: Trumpism and Brexit are hauntingly similar. They both reject immigration and international institutions. They’re both inward-looking movements, that assert that the modern world is unfair – especially to “The West”. They both claim that nefarious and unwelcome “invaders” are pouring in, changing the character of the host-nation for the worse. It’s a movement that particularly appeals to the blue-collar set. Ironic, isn’t it, how “Workers of the World, Unite!” is now universally loathed, but a similar message, if stated backwards – “Workers of the world, dismantle the global consensus, and withdraw to within your own walls” – is so popular?

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Like any socialist/communist they envision a global government some day such as in SciFi movies like Star Trek with the earth governed by Star Fleet and the Federation of Planets.
Most leftist people welcome such a world, but the goal for the time being is to take power away from individuals, for the "common good of the collective".
On the contrary, nothing threatens an individual’s rights as much as an intrusive and rapacious LOCAL government. The further away the government is – the more centralized it is – the less it impedes the primacy of the individual.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:00 PM
 
Location: New York
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Can you provide proof that Soros provided money to Merkel? Please be specific and don't tell me to look it up myself. You claimed it so the burden is on you.

Soros the Boogeyman!
Migrationpolicy.org/about/funders
-see Open Society Foundations

OSF also heavily donates to leftist groups in the US, like Popular Democracy, who provided signs, buses, rooms, and yes pay, to many of the protestors we see today.

You probably won’t care though. Your most likely the type who refuses to look at race and IQ despite the adundant science. You probably think it’s no big deal that almost all of media, tv, news, film, music, is controlled by just one group of people, a group making up not even 2 % of our population. This same group is also 40% of our millionaires. And crime? Yeah no biggie that blacks commit 50 % of all crime despite being just 13% of our population. It’s all just other people’s problems right?
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: New York
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Thanks for reminding me that this kind of sick thinking wasn't exterminated in 1945.
So I say that everyone deserves their own homeland and you call that “sick”? My friend need I point out to you that history is not on your side here. Who are you to open borders? England and it’s people have called that land home for centuries. For tens of thousands of years people have lived there, evolved there, grew there. Who are you to decide that it should now be home to Muslims, Africans, and all others? You and I and Merkel are merely stewards of this earth. It is not up to you to decide that a white country should no longer be white.
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