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Boomers don't care if they screw Medicare and ss for future generations
Eh, we are currently at 1952 and older boomers getting Medicare minus those on SS disability like my father was. My mom is one year away and I don't think she'd like it chipped away at before she turns 66 in February, nor would my father who has been on several years through SS disability. So yeah unless the boomers are protected, they won't support the cuts unless they vote against their own self-interests. I know my parents aren't.
Boomers don't care if they screw Medicare and ss for future generations
We do not want our kids and grandkids to be screwed by the GOP. SS and Medicare and Medicaid the best thing the Gov't does for the people who vote for them.
The GOP has a major problem take care of the money like Adelson and Koch or take care of the people who vote them in.
We are comparing debt accumulation under various presidents here. How is that 'not remotely the same?'
I agree that President Obama gets some slack due to the crash of 2008 that he inherited. But not total absolution for $9 trillion of debt increase over 8 years.
If you look at the numbers in the tax policy center link I posted, neither the Bush nor Trump tax cuts have resulted in significant revenue decline.
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The republicans controlled congress for most of his 8 years, the Great Recession should get more than just a little slack. Unemployment of over 10%, bankruptcies, companies closing their doors and mortgage Forclosures 2 wars going on and he just gets a little slack? It was far from your normal term.
His last 2 years he could have done more like doing away with the tax cuts but for the most part he had no latitude.
In Pelosii's first year, spending was bumped up by $.5 trillion. That was the dagger to the heart in terms of the debt. It being DC, once spending goes up, it doesn't go back down. The great recession gets Obama some slack, but not for nearly doubling the debt over 8 years. The Iraq war counted for 3% of federal spending until it ended, 2 years into Obama's first term. Blaming that is like blaming your cell phone bill for your $75,000 credit card balance. And Obama strongly supported the Afghan war(as Senator), so you can't take him off the hook for that.
Again, you fall into the trap of looking through a partisan lens. Bush, Obama, and Trump (so far) have all been disasters on debt. Obama should have cut spending. Instead he worked with Pelosi to skyrocket it, and once Boehner came it, he lobbied with every ounce of power to bump it up even more. See The Price of Politics by Bob Woodward.
In Pelosii's first year, spending was bumped up by $.5 trillion. That was the dagger to the heart in terms of the debt. It being DC, once spending goes up, it doesn't go back down. The great recession gets Obama some slack, but not for nearly doubling the debt over 8 years. The Iraq war counted for 3% of federal spending until it ended, 2 years into Obama's first term. Blaming that is like blaming your cell phone bill for your $75,000 credit card balance. And Obama strongly supported the Afghan war(as Senator), so you can't take him off the hook for that.
Again, you fall into the trap of looking through a partisan lens. Bush, Obama, and Trump (so far) have all been disasters on debt. Obama should have cut spending. Instead he worked with Pelosi to skyrocket it, and once Boehner came it, he lobbied with every ounce of power to bump it up even more. See The Price of Politics by Bob Woodward.
Bush and Trump increased deficits. Clinton and Obama cut deficits.
One party is more responsible... passing tax cuts they don't pay for.. started under Reagan, got worse under dubya and now trump is creating annual trillion dollar deficits
Again, federal tax revenue has nearly doubled since Reagan. Treating the debt as a wedge issue ensures that it will continue to get worse. Because the party out of power can rail against it, and then when back in power can feel comfortable keeping the borrowing binge going.
Bush and Trump increased deficits. Clinton and Obama cut deficits.
I somewhat agree re Clinton, as I posted previously. He still doesn't gat an 'A' however, since total debt increased on his watch. He gets maybe a B- or C+, but that is better than Bush and Obama's F-.
Again, you have to spin like a tornado to give Obama credit on the debt issue. His deficits only went down because they began at such an ungodly level. He nearly doubled the debt over 8 years, and would have done even worse but for Boehner refusing his demands for more spending.
See sequester and the fact that deficits were dropping under Obama.
GOP hates it, it took away a talking point.
The sequester was the Obama admin's idea. See The Price of Politics by Woodward. But it was intended to be so painful that both sides would negotiate some deal to stop it from being triggered.
The sequester was the Obama admin's idea. See The Price of Politics by Woodward. But it was intended to be so painful that both sides would negotiate some deal to stop it from being triggered.
The sequester was the Obama admin's idea. See The Price of Politics by Woodward. But it was intended to be so painful that both sides would negotiate some deal to stop it from being triggered.
Now here we are years later, and Obama sycophants are trying to claim credit for it. Go figure.
As a Republican sycophant you must hate the current state of the deficit. It will hit a billion a year in 2019.
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