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View Poll Results: How will illegal immigrant invasion caravan effect midterm election
Help Republicans 203 74.09%
Help Democrats 21 7.66%
No effect 50 18.25%
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:30 PM
 
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Local law enforcement should ignore ICE holds, they Have you ever read up on the legal problems with them?





Here are a few more for you,
https://www.aclu.org/fact-sheet/rece...ges-cases-2018

https://www.lawfareblog.com/immigrat...uide-perplexed

I think we just disagree and neither of us will change the others mind. In my opinion you are pro-criminal and everything that is wrong in this state and country.

But that just me. Have a good Thanksgiving.

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Old 11-15-2018, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Nonsense.

Illegal aliens harm no one. On balance we break even.

Criminals harm individuals and us all.

And not legalizing the present illegal aliens does huge harm to us in the long run including allowing the illegal alien population to grow.

So do we wish to enforce the immigration laws or not? It appears not at the moment.
I'm not following your rationale. You stated illegal aliens hurt no one. Is that really the truth? You didn't know they often times steal social security numbers? Or commit crimes? Have you ever researched how many illegals break the law?

Their mindset is one of entitlement they do not respect our laws, hence coming here illegally.

When illegals get jobs they suppress wages. They are willing to do jobs for less competing with local citizens. They send most of their wages back to their family in third world countries, thus that money earned here, doesn't stay here to circulate in our economy.

And then they take government programs that is meant for our citizens. All these things are harmful, not helpful to our country so no we shouldn't be rewarding these people by granting them U.S. citizenship.
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:50 PM
 
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It's from the DHS site itself and yes these migrants did crash Mexico's gate and probably used those Molotov cocktails to do so. What difference does it make that it's from two weeks ago? The point was to inform us what these people are really all about. Did they turn over a new leaf from two weeks ago?


Is that all you've got? Are you going to completely ignore the rest of what DHS said about the caravan?
The DHS website is simply parroting Trump. What do you expect?


On any normal day, you would scoff at anything some Mexican politician says. But for some reason, every word they say about the immigrants is gospel.


Whatever. Let's just wait and see what happens.
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:56 PM
 
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:34 AM
 
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The DHS website is simply parroting Trump. What do you expect?


On any normal day, you would scoff at anything some Mexican politician says. But for some reason, every word they say about the immigrants is gospel.


Whatever. Let's just wait and see what happens.

You must be joking! So Trump had privy to all the information on the caravan prior to the DHS knowing it? You're just grasping at straws now.


All of the info on the DHS site was not supplied by a Mexican politician. Being the pro-illegal that you are you just couldn't stand the truth that all those in this caravan are not the innocents that you and yours want to portray them to be. Did you see the violence that erupted in Tijuana when hundreds of them arrived there in the past couple of days? Also, we were being told by you and yours that Trump shouldn't have sent troops to the border too early. I guess it wasn't too early after all, was it?
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:36 AM
 
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That’s a brilliant idea! In fact, you’re a genius. You just figured out how to get rid of all crime and make this world a utopia.

We just make everything legal. Nothing is a crime anymore. There, all crime gone.


I know. He/she keeps parroting the same nonsense over and over. Yeah, let's make all crimes legal and therefore we won't have criminals anymore! Good Lord, what are they smoking?
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:43 AM
 
Location: sumter
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Trump hasn't changed his stance on the caravan.
But during a campaign you talk about all your stances more than usual, because you are trying to get your message across to people before they vote.
That goes for all issues, not just the caravan.
Trump's position hasn't changed at all, since the election, he's just not campaigning anymore.
Nice little spin on things, but nobody outside of Trump supporters are buying it though. That caravan was like Armageddon, the world as we know was about to cease to exist. That bad bad caravan was going to destroy us.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Originally Posted by MAGAalot
Trump hasn't changed his stance on the caravan.
But during a campaign you talk about all your stances more than usual, because you are trying to get your message across to people before they vote.
That goes for all issues, not just the caravan.
Trump's position hasn't changed at all, since the election, he's just not campaigning anymore.






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Nice little spin on things, but nobody outside of Trump supporters are buying it though. That caravan was like Armageddon, the world as we know was about to cease to exist. That bad bad caravan was going to destroy us.





The caravan might not be the end of the world "armageddon" but it is dangerous to America.

If 7000 line up seeking asylum and half get it while the other half is sent back that sends a message to millions more to try it. If the 7000 bum rush the border and force their way into America while the border agents and military are forced to stand down because we all know that if even one "migrant" is harmed the Dems will use him as a political weapon that sends a message to millions of other "migrants" to try it.



Do we really need millions of people migrating here from the failed state of Venezuela?



As for crime that is committed by an illegal alien what would you do if you illegally entered a foreign country, you don't speak the language, you have no where to go, no money and nothing to lose. In America you can commit most any crime and be let out on bail. If you are an illegal alien you can simply skip your court date, move somewhere else in the country and assume another identity. They have nothing to lose and with no fear of the penalties there is no fear of the law.



Of course one of the solutions to prevent the illegal aliens from committing crimes is to give them everything they need and cross our fingers that it will be enough. Of course there is nothing like handing out free stuff to get people motivated and off their butts to start marching.



None of this is a positive for America.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:41 AM
 
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Nice little spin on things, but nobody outside of Trump supporters are buying it though. That caravan was like Armageddon, the world as we know was about to cease to exist. That bad bad caravan was going to destroy us.

Oh stop with the melodramatics and exaggerations! No one has said any of those things.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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AZ Border Patrol has rounded up 650 migrants in just two days this week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...r-two-days.amp

Things are getting crowded and ugly in Tijuana:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.des...amp/2009755002

Another 1,500 arrived yesterday.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8635841.html
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