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Liberals love pointing out how President Trump lies... as long as nobody compares him to his predecessors' lies, broken promises, and general untrustworthiness, that far exceed Trump's.
Trump could be the most honest president in modern history
by Marc A. Thiessen
October 11
Donald Trump may be remembered as the most honest president in modern American history.
Don’t get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he “enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history” (actually they are the eighth largest) and that “our economy is the strongest it’s ever been in the history of our country” (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it’s a New York thing — everything is the biggest and the best.
But when it comes to the real barometer of presidential truthfulness — keeping his promises — Trump is a paragon of honesty. For better or worse, since taking office Trump has done exactly what he promised he would.
Trump kept his promise to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, something his three immediate predecessors also promised yet failed to do. He promised to “crush and destroy ISIS,” and two years later he is on the verge of eliminating the Islamic State’s physical caliphate. He promised to impose a travel ban on countries that he saw as posing a terrorist threat, and after several false starts the final version of his ban was upheld by the Supreme Court. He promised to punish Syria if it used chemical weapons on its people, and, unlike his immediate predecessor, he followed through — not once but twice.
Trump pledged to nominate Supreme Court justices “in the mold of Justice [Antonin] Scalia,” and now Neil M. Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh sit on the high court. Trump also pledged to fill the federal appellate courts with young, conservative judges, and so far the Senate has confirmed 29 — more than any recent president at this point in his administration.
Trump vowed to pass historic tax reforms and signed the first major overhaul of the tax code in three decades. He vowed an unprecedented regulatory rollback, with a strict policy to eliminate two existing regulations for every new regulation. In his first year, he achieved $8.1 billion in lifetime regulatory savings and is on track to achieve an additional $9.8 billion this year.
(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL. Click on it for a long list of campaign promises Trump has kept.)
Liberals love pointing out how President Trump lies... as long as nobody compares him to his predecessors' lies, broken promises, and general untrustworthiness, that far exceed Trump's.
Trump could be the most honest president in modern history
by Marc A. Thiessen
October 11
Donald Trump may be remembered as the most honest president in modern American history.
Don’t get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he “enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history” (actually they are the eighth largest) and that “our economy is the strongest it’s ever been in the history of our country” (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it’s a New York thing — everything is the biggest and the best.
But when it comes to the real barometer of presidential truthfulness — keeping his promises — Trump is a paragon of honesty. For better or worse, since taking office Trump has done exactly what he promised he would.
Trump kept his promise to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, something his three immediate predecessors also promised yet failed to do. He promised to “crush and destroy ISIS,” and two years later he is on the verge of eliminating the Islamic State’s physical caliphate. He promised to impose a travel ban on countries that he saw as posing a terrorist threat, and after several false starts the final version of his ban was upheld by the Supreme Court. He promised to punish Syria if it used chemical weapons on its people, and, unlike his immediate predecessor, he followed through — not once but twice.
Trump pledged to nominate Supreme Court justices “in the mold of Justice [Antonin] Scalia,” and now Neil M. Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh sit on the high court. Trump also pledged to fill the federal appellate courts with young, conservative judges, and so far the Senate has confirmed 29 — more than any recent president at this point in his administration.
Trump vowed to pass historic tax reforms and signed the first major overhaul of the tax code in three decades. He vowed an unprecedented regulatory rollback, with a strict policy to eliminate two existing regulations for every new regulation. In his first year, he achieved $8.1 billion in lifetime regulatory savings and is on track to achieve an additional $9.8 billion this year.
(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL. Click on it for a long list of campaign promises Trump has kept.)
gee, a puff piece love letter of an opinion piece by a GOP speech writer...wow
Liberals love pointing out how President Trump lies... as long as nobody compares him to his predecessors' lies, broken promises, and general untrustworthiness, that far exceed Trump's.
Trump could be the most honest president in modern history
by Marc A. Thiessen
October 11
Donald Trump may be remembered as the most honest president in modern American history.
Don’t get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he “enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history” (actually they are the eighth largest) and that “our economy is the strongest it’s ever been in the history of our country” (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it’s a New York thing — everything is the biggest and the best.
But when it comes to the real barometer of presidential truthfulness — keeping his promises — Trump is a paragon of honesty. For better or worse, since taking office Trump has done exactly what he promised he would.
Trump kept his promise to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, something his three immediate predecessors also promised yet failed to do. He promised to “crush and destroy ISIS,” and two years later he is on the verge of eliminating the Islamic State’s physical caliphate. He promised to impose a travel ban on countries that he saw as posing a terrorist threat, and after several false starts the final version of his ban was upheld by the Supreme Court. He promised to punish Syria if it used chemical weapons on its people, and, unlike his immediate predecessor, he followed through — not once but twice.
Trump pledged to nominate Supreme Court justices “in the mold of Justice [Antonin] Scalia,” and now Neil M. Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh sit on the high court. Trump also pledged to fill the federal appellate courts with young, conservative judges, and so far the Senate has confirmed 29 — more than any recent president at this point in his administration.
Trump vowed to pass historic tax reforms and signed the first major overhaul of the tax code in three decades. He vowed an unprecedented regulatory rollback, with a strict policy to eliminate two existing regulations for every new regulation. In his first year, he achieved $8.1 billion in lifetime regulatory savings and is on track to achieve an additional $9.8 billion this year.
(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL. Click on it for a long list of campaign promises Trump has kept.)
Trump is generally pretty honest, I believe anyway. He lies quite a bit from a technicality standpoint (I think mostly out of ignorance), but there is almost always a shred of truth in everything he says. He may not nail down the specifics very well, but he's always on to something when makes a point.
Trump has the ability to read between the lines better than many politicians today. He has a knack for cutting through the BS and keeping his eye on the prize.
TRANSLATION: I can't refute any of the message, but I hate it anyway. So I'll attack the messenger instead, hoping somebody will believe me somewhere.
OK then, let's refute the message.
Keeping promises is not the barometer of presidential truthfulness.
" It just isn’t — they’re somewhat related, but they aren’t the same thing at all. You can be honest and fail to keep your promises for any number of reasons, and Trump is living proof that you can keep promises while lying every step of the way. The assertion that the real measure of honesty is not honesty itself but something else sounds a lot like a concerted act of rationalization, a way of supporting a president who lies with shocking regularity while convincing yourself that you’re still a moral person for whom honesty matters." Paul Waldman
But if promises are your thing, study this impartial list of unkept Trump promises:
Provide Americans with “insurance for everybody.”
Repeal the affordable care act and replace it with something terrific Build a wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it. Eliminate the “carried interest loophole” that benefits hedge fund managers. Pass a massive infrastructure plan.
Officially declare China a currency manipulator. Bring back the use of torture. Sue the women who accused him of sexual misconduct. Release his tax returns. Appoint a special prosecutor to target Hillary Clinton. Provide six weeks of paid leave to women who have children. Eliminate the deficit and pay off the national debt
For a great rebuttal piece to "refute the message", see this:
Oh, he gets credit for "crushing ISIS" now? The caliphate was steadily dwindling since 2014 thanks to an intelligent air strike policy combined with local ground forces, but I guess the world was reborn when the Orange One was sworn in.
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gee, a puff piece love letter of an opinion piece by a GOP speech writer...wow
IOW, the thread title implying this is the Washington Post's opinion is as big a lie as most of Trump's lies.
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