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Old 10-20-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I remember mobs hanging monkey effigies symbolizing Obama and chanting “lock her up” like mindless zombies, while millions of jobs were being created under the previous presidency. Democratic presidents create sound economies, Republican presidents undo their work with skyrocketing deficits.
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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So you have no answer. Because Trump hasn't created jobs.
Here’s my personal experience.

I’ve been laid off a total a three times in my 30+ year career, all of them in the past 7 years. The first two times, during which Obama was president, I found new jobs in less than a month and they both paid more than the ones I had lost. I’m both cases these were newly created positions.

The third time was this past April, because the company I had been recruited by a mere 8 months earlier was struggling (and still is). This time it took me 5 months to find a new job and this job pays so much less that financially I’m back to where I was before 2012. The whole time I kept hearing how great the job market is and yet I could not find anything despite doing a nationwide search. So while I don’t blame DJT for my experience, I certainly did not see any evidence of him or his cronies being the job creators he claims they are.
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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I remember mobs hanging monkey effigies symbolizing Obama and chanting “lock her up” like mindless zombies, while millions of jobs were being created under the previous presidency. Democratic presidents create sound economies, Republican presidents undo their work with skyrocketing deficits.
Not sure exactly what sound economic policy helped the USA rebound after the worst recession....but it did.

And the myth that Trump inherited a struggling economy is that -- just a myth.

If you use all the indicators that Trump uses today to claim economic success -- you can find see those same trends for the last 6 years of Obama's Presidency -- and Obama most definitely inherited an economic mess.

Not sure Obama was responsible or if it is the resilience of the USA and its people.
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Obama was in office for 8 years and the USA didn't even come close to VEnezuela. In fact , the country -- for whatever reason, was able to dig itself out of the worst recession we have ever seen.....that came after 8 years of a Republican administration.

Your statement is based on your emotional approach to politics.

Ironically many like you rant and rave and rage over all kinds of myths, theories, conspiracies and scenarios that aren't based on anything but feelings and emotions and then attack anyone who doesn't think like you for being emotional.

WHAT?
Yeah we got out of recession, and we should have, given how much money was borrowed. And it says here that for all the $$ that were borrowed, we should have gotten a lot more bang for the buck. I'm not going to downplay the republicans responsibility either --- the problems didn't start with George W Bush but they sure grew worse on his watch.
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I remember mobs hanging monkey effigies symbolizing Obama and chanting “lock her up” like mindless zombies, while millions of jobs were being created under the previous presidency. Democratic presidents create sound economies, Republican presidents undo their work with skyrocketing deficits.
Nice attempt at humor.

Obama ran up more debt than all previous Presidents COMBINED. Even with multiple Trillion dollar stimuli, the economy was terrible. Democrats attempt to create elitist socialist utopias using the money of the middle income earner.
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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Not a fan of the all or nothing slogan by either side.
Can say that my affiliation with Democrats ceased after the vile way they handled a supreme justice interrogation.
The Republicans though carry a vested interest in voiding certain medical decisions that need to be left to the individual. And for that I cannot side with that party either.

My state has scraped the bottom of the barrel to gather some dems and repubs...I've been left with choosing between which animal fecal matter is less offensive..Neither is tolerable...
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:04 AM
 
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Yeah we got out of recession, and we should have, given how much money was borrowed. And it says here that for all the $$ that were borrowed, we should have gotten a lot more bang for the buck. I'm not going to downplay the republicans responsibility either --- the problems didn't start with George W Bush but they sure grew worse on his watch.
I think we saw six years of positive job growth....and that job growth continues 21 months later..not because of Trump's policies. As I have said, in my community the biggest corporate expansions, investments, came 3 years ago. It has taken those three years to see the full effect (it takes a couple of years to build a significant manufacturing facility that will add significant jobs).

Since Trump -- nothing -- no new investments in our community.

Maybe somebody else can confirm that there have been commitments in their communities to create thousands of jobs -- but here nothing.

The economy is good in spite of Trump and OBama you could say.
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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Not a fan of the all or nothing slogan by either side.
Can say that my affiliation with Democrats ceased after the vile way they handled a supreme justice interrogation.
The Republicans though carry a vested interest in voiding certain medical decisions that need to be left to the individual. And for that I cannot side with that party either.

My state has scraped the bottom of the barrel to gather some dems and repubs...I've been left with choosing between which animal fecal matter is less offensive..Neither is tolerable...
A little crude but exactly.

Why do American voters settle for that scum at the bottom of the barrel. Is that the best we can do.

Unfortunately this tribe mentality is so strong -- voters would rather elect scum than dare elect someone on the other side.
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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Yeah we got out of recession, and we should have, given how much money was borrowed. And it says here that for all the $$ that were borrowed, we should have gotten a lot more bang for the buck. I'm not going to downplay the republicans responsibility either --- the problems didn't start with George W Bush but they sure grew worse on his watch.
With the economy expanding, you would think we would be creating surpluses, but instead deficits are growing.

We should only go into deficit territory during recessions to help prop up the economy. Surpluses during good economic times should be used to pay down debt.
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Nice attempt at humor.

Obama ran up more debt than all previous Presidents COMBINED. Even with multiple Trillion dollar stimuli, the economy was terrible. Democrats attempt to create elitist socialist utopias using the money of the middle income earner.
Deficits were reduced dramatically under Obama's watch. But now they are growing like crazy under Trump's watch. How do you explain that one?
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