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Old 10-21-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: United States
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The filing does not indicate they had spies inside the Trump campaign, that is is pure conjecture.
The court documents show there was more than one confidential source, and that their identities, and payment information is being withheld.
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Old 10-21-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The court documents show there was more than one confidential source, and that their identities, and payment information is being withheld.
Yes the FBI has confidential sources, do? Nunes am his brethren have already reviewed the warrant why is this coming up again.
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Old 10-21-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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Yes the FBI has confidential sources, do? Nunes am his brethren have already reviewed the warrant why is this coming up again.

You, as well as other people on here insisted they didn't send paid people to spy on the Trump campaign. The FBI is conforming they did exactly that.
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Old 10-21-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/20/f...s-carter-page/

I don't think anyone is really surprised. Obama and Clinton politicized the FBI and DOJ before this even happened and they just assumed Clinton was a shoo in and this would NEVER come out....people need to be sent to prison for LONG terms for this.
Of course Obama's Spooks were spying on Trump in an effort to elect Hillary...that's why they made up the Trump/Russia collusion delusion....that's been clear for months.
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Old 10-21-2018, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Why can't you just be honest? You know very well, the purpose of the Mueller probe is to prevent all the evidence from being made public. That's why we can't see the unredacted FISA warrants, why the FBI won't release the 302's they're required to supply, why Rosenstein & friends simply refuse to testify, etc. etc. If Trump makes a move to force them to follow the law, it's obstruction or politically motivated, blah, blah, blah. It was a genius move to stop any transparency and ensure no accountability, but at least have the integrity to admit the truth, rather than to continue lying.
Trump can release the unredacted warrant anytime he wants. He is the only one in that position.


I would remind you however that Trump appointees hold all the cards. The warrant was issued after Page had left the campaign and was renewed multiple times by Trump appointees after the election. If the warrant was about the election then why renew it after the election is over.
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Old 10-21-2018, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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You, as well as other people on here insisted they didn't send paid people to spy on the Trump campaign. The FBI is conforming they did exactly that.
Page wasn't with the campaign when the warrant was issued.
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Old 10-21-2018, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Of course Obama's Spooks were spying on Trump in an effort to elect Hillary...that's why they made up the Trump/Russia collusion delusion....that's been clear for months.
Prove it.
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Old 10-21-2018, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You, as well as other people on here insisted they didn't send paid people to spy on the Trump campaign. The FBI is conforming they did exactly that.
They were informants relative to Russia not specifically the Trump campaign, how come Nunes missed this fact if it was true. Since Page left the campaign before the initial warrant was signed how did they spy in his campaign.
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Old 10-21-2018, 09:07 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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By now the left knows damn well what Obama/Hillary/DNC, in conjunction with their ideological allies in the FBI/CIA did to frame an opposing political candidate. It's not that they don't get it, they just don't care. They whine about fairness, fascism and abuse of power ad nauseum, but they're 100% on board with it as long as it helps them "win". When they said "by any means necessary" they meant it.
Facts show that the FBI helped Donald Trump to win the 2016 presidential election

The FBI published a letter saying the agency reopened the Hillary Clinton email investigation 11 days before the 2016 presidential election. The FBI letter "might have shifted the race by 3 or 4 percentage points toward Donald Trump, swinging Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida to him, perhaps along with North Carolina and Arizona" (and its possible the FBI letter caused Hillary to loose the 2016 presidential election.)
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-the-election/

News of the FBI reopening the Hillary Clinton investigation "dominated the headlines of major media outlets in the days leading up to the election. Stocks fell sharply and Clinton's poll numbers dropped by 3 points over subsequent days."
Comey on Clinton-Trump investigations and 2016 election - Business Insider

It can be argued that the above FBI letter caused Hillary Clinton to loose the 2016 presidential election.

What did the FBI do to hurt, disrupt or hinder Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign?

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If that means using the intelligence agencies against your political opponents, false accusations, violence, whatever. There literally is no level they won't stoop to in order to wield power over us.
It is Donald Trump that manipulates the FBI for political purposes and political gains.

In the FBI investigation into Brett Kavanaugh the Trump White House limited the scope of the investigation, and Trump controlled who could and could not be investigated.
Kavanaugh Investigation Limited by White House: Report

And it can be argued that Trump designed the FBI investigation into to fail.
FBI


And it can also be argued that Donald Trump intervened in FBI matters and stopped the moving of the FBI headquarters to protect increased business at a Trump hotel.
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/18/65850...mocrats-allege

What did Obama or Hillary Clinton do to manipulate the FBI?

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Old 10-21-2018, 09:17 PM
 
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They were informants relative to Russia not specifically the Trump campaign, how come Nunes missed this fact if it was true. Since Page left the campaign before the initial warrant was signed how did they spy in his campaign.
Because a title-1 warrant allows them to conduct surveillance on anyone Carter Page communicated with. A title-1 warrant also allows them to go back, and search the NSA database and review all communications, past, and present.

The entire point of using the dossier's claims was because it claimed Carter page was a foreign agent, which allowed them to get the title-1 warrant, which in turn allowed them to conduct surveillance on people he communicated with, the Trump campaign.

So yes, the Carter Page warrant allowed them to conduct surveillance on the Trump campaign.
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