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Old 10-22-2018, 07:55 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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What this data really says: In spite of the booming economy Trump still can't find a majority of Americans who think he is doing a good job.
Yep. How amusing. The Trump sycophants actually believe a 47% approval rating is something to cheer about Besides, Trump isn't on the ballot.

 
Old 10-22-2018, 07:57 AM
 
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Anyone else notice the deluge of "Trump is doing great"
post today?
...
They want to create the illusion of success, which if repeated often enough, might be taken as a fact by some naive newbies to politics.

"If you repeat a lie many times, people are bound to start believing it."
anon

Trump knows this technique intimately, he has used it decades on end in his business dealings.

A corollary is the following ...

Perception is more important than reality. If someone perceives something to be true, it is more important than if it is in fact true."
Ivanka Trump | The Trump Card: Playing to Win in Work and Life
 
Old 10-22-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Ellijay,Georgia
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Other than having a severe case of "diarrhea of the mouth", I think he is doing an excellent job.
I also think he should delete all his "social media" accounts.
How do you expect him to get his message out then? The ENTIRE media is in the pocket of the democrat party...I love his social media usage. Its what truly sets the leftists off.
 
Old 10-22-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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People can't and won't accept the daily belligerence Trump spews, and people simply don't care for 2 yrs of Trump bashing the larger half of the country, and promoting political contempt fueled by racial divisiveness and pushing anguish at various cultural ethnic groups.

The history of his unethical criminal history and the disrespect for EVERY Government Agency, is not to the liking of anyone except the Trump Cultist. People are not of selective Amnesia, to forget about Flynn, Manifort or Bannon... not to mention the long list of others.

Devos is a mess for Education and Carson is a Buffoon when it comes to HUD. EPA and the Pruitt mess, along with Department After Department that has been attacked, insulted and denigrated. The insult to the Intelligence Community done on the world stage.
These things have not gone away from the minds of the many. Certainly Charlotteville is still a deep cut that stitches won't repair.

Cohen is giving more and more information, and we have not even hear the mass of information from his personal Accountant, who will tell all he knows for the preservation of himself and his family. People have not forgot about Ivanka having the audacity to sit on stage with accomplished public servant women in Germany. Trumps square headed trash talking son and his groomed in arrogance is a well remembered madness that Americans can't overlook, nor his "Trophy Hunting Killing of Animals".... Nope... this entire family is a sad and bad situations.

The world has not forgot Melania's plagiarizing of Michelle's speech, or plagiarizing the material for the pamphlet she put out. This stuff many not be in the headlines, but its within the minds of the people.
His superiority complex as it relates to women, will never be played down and certainly never forgotten. Then there is his history of Fleecing the IRS, Fleecing Cities for Tax Concessions and His long history of Money Laundering and being a washing machine for "Foreign Dark Money".

His attack on the Government of the United States, and disgracing American on the stage with Putin, and insulting the Entire Nations in front of the UN and NATO... not to mention the denigration of the Diplomatic System of American Diplomats. Then comes the Madness of the Trade Wars and the Outrageous Tax give away to himself and the wealthy like himself.

The damages of his presence in the Office of the President has pushed nothing but contempt and anguish across the social sphere of the nation and many nations of the world have been insulted, and degraded by his tone, posture, actions and general conduct and lack of understanding Geo-Political realities.

Only his core groups is blind to these things and will gladly overlook it just for the hope to rebuild "white nationalism", which has seen its death since the 1960's, because American is Multicultural, Always has been... and it will no longer allow white privilege to again promote a delusion of what nationalism.

The nations knows, that white nationalism is the culprit behind the disintegration of Industry, by the corporate leaders and politicians who crafted the exodus, to retain wealthy in the hands of the wealthy, by removing the pathway for women and minorities to gain economic parity with white males, and in the process it has destroyed the standards of what use to be Middle Class and it has equally so devastated poor whites as it treated them as nothing more than collateral damage and expendable and disposable.

The Right Wing Media FOX spin, pushing by every way it can to preserve white nationalist agenda, has misinformed the masses on a variety of topics, and the "ethnic bias" and the lack of "moral fortitude by the white evangelicals, has and will continue to see young people step away from what they have shown to represent.

People know the difference in Religion Institution that respect and honor and support the principles of Gods Teaching, and those who pretend to do so, but don't and pander to the likes and desires of wanting and pursuing white nationalism, by the pretense of a morality they have no intent to support or uphold.

The people care more about America than they do about Trump... and the nations knows the damages done by Republican during the Bush Administration and every Republican Administration for the past 50 yrs.

The economic's that Trump touts, are the remains of the economic movement created by Obama Administration Policies, and Trump has done nothing that can even sustain it. Sadly, these sell off of the stock ticker fiction, will get larger in numbers, because investors don't stay dump very long when they see the damages mounting.
They are not new to the game and when there is political conflict, and international conflict, they know what follows... and they will Cash out of the Casino Games.... They will go to safe havens, and safe havens don't support uncontrolled expansion and fictional pretense of growth that does not really have means to sustain itself.

Once Trump is no longer in Office and Republican are relegated to the back burners, Then America will rebuild itself, and when it does so, it will be "exactly along the lines Obama tried to tell people 10 yrs ago"... and that is very simple to understand to those who invest in thinking and understanding.

"AMERICA HAS TO REBUILD FROM THE BOTTOM UP'... !!!! It has to do so, where ALL American can join in with a level playing field. This means... simply the wealthy will not be the ones to make and shape policy, and the nation itself will have a renewal program somewhat like what FDR did... it will invest in America and Invest in America people, to rebuild not just our Roadway Infrastructure, but our Railway systems and out Water and Sewer systems, it will invest with public utilities to upgrade our power grids, and improve the advancement of Renewable Energy. These are systematic things, that must be done and will be done.

The social programs for Social Security, will change to mean, no more wage caps on contribution, and a means and methods to make payment calculation adjustments based on the longer term of paying into the systems. National Health Care will become the stable law of the land, and we will create means for Medical Schools to have cost reduction and graduates to have debt forgiveness for the service areas they work. It will change the dynamics of be a Dr. and Get Rich game, to be a Dr. and Honor the Oath, and they will live well, but it won't be the "get rich "quick" game it has been in the past".

American always moves forward and after a calamity and disaster move of having Trump in office and seeing the group malice by Republicans... American has to fix that mess, which will bring new legislation on Presidential Power, and the Advise and Consent will be mandated, there won't be any more of the violations of policy, standards and protocols.. in how our government works...

Why this will happen... because people are returning to learning about political dynamics and civic responsibility, and information and technology has brought this front and center in the young people, from grade schools throughout the university system and the non university population.

Young kids today are horrified and disenchanted with the vile and belligerence of the Trump bicker fest and his incessant attack on everything about America. They watched him insult the Supreme Court with Kavanaugh and there will be a repeal of the Federal Judges that Trump has placed.

The right wing will find themselves in the same predicament they did , when they were rabid fighters against Civil Rights, because integration passed as law, and women now know their rights and fight to ensure they are respected, and diversity is respected across the nation in the minds of the masses who know and understand the value of a diverse society.

More and more young people can't wait to get away from their Right Wing environments, and they will find means to get away, the same as the Right Winger kids did in the 1960's to get away from their racist parents and racist community repressions.

People are aware, that most American's don't go to work, thinking about what political party one another is in, and many don't go to work with racial mentality dominating their days, people work together and often times, their political concerns never enter the conversation of how they work together, racial things in the workplace are nothing like it was in the 1950's and early 1960's black and white and other ethnic people, work with each other, and over the decades have built respect for and of the work of each other. Many white people don't want anything to do with how white people were in the past, and they don't want to be associated with it, nor do they want to be measured or judged by the acts of their ancestry.

People now want to mate with whomever they want, and marry whom ever they want... and they will continue to do so.
The average person is not running around worried about if there is more White or more Black or more Mexican or more Asian, people don't care about that as much as some in blog and forums would like to make people think. many of these forums are filled with older people from a different era, many retired and or close to retirement, and they come from a generation that is past, and things have changed tremendously in the younger generations that are merging their lives more and more to make a society they want to make. They've done so for decades upon decades, Only now, they know they must change the way they elect people in how they choose who is to be elected. The bigots and the wealthy won't have the paved pathway to political office and we see that change happening this very day.

When they (young people) change the political landscape the rest will be made less difficult to build a better society and civic and civil system.

They care that people work together, build and grow together and respect each other as being equally capable and willing to be contributors into society.

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Old 10-22-2018, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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How do you expect him to get his message out then? The ENTIRE media is in the pocket of the democrat party...I love his social media usage. Its what truly sets the leftists off.
Nonsense. That is like saying truth is in the pocket of the democratic party.
 
Old 10-22-2018, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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From the exact same poll:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fir...ctions-n922266

"Fueled by increased enthusiasm from women, Latinos and young voters for the upcoming midterm election, Democrats hold a 9-point lead among likely voters over Republicans in congressional preference, according to the latest national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. ... In the poll, 50 percent of likely voters prefer Democrat to control Congress after the November elections, versus 41 percent who want Republicans to stay in charge — up 1 point from Democrats’ lead in the September NBC/WSJ survey."
 
Old 10-22-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Ellijay,Georgia
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Nonsense. That is like saying truth is in the pocket of the democratic party.
LOL...like the media tells the truth....its pure propaganda. Trump should stick to his social media accounts. I love it and we get information faster that way and he can go DIRECTLY to his supporters and ALL Americans alike without the democrat propaganda machine putting their spin on things.
 
Old 10-22-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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From the exact same poll:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fir...ctions-n922266

"Fueled by increased enthusiasm from women, Latinos and young voters for the upcoming midterm election, Democrats hold a 9-point lead among likely voters over Republicans in congressional preference, according to the latest national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. ... In the poll, 50 percent of likely voters prefer Democrat to control Congress after the November elections, versus 41 percent who want Republicans to stay in charge — up 1 point from Democrats’ lead in the September NBC/WSJ survey."
What I never see is the results that say "xx% find candidates from both parties to be distasteful and not worthy of public office"
 
Old 10-22-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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How do you expect him to get his message out then? The ENTIRE media is in the pocket of the democrat party...
That is Democratic Party. A person might be a democrat, the party is democratic, and it lives up to it's name.

And no, the media is not in the pocket of the Democratic party. What the media and the general public have in common is a desire to know and disseminate the truth.

Trump has a problem with the truth getting around (which is why he imposes non-disclosure 'muzzling' on everyone he comes in contact with), so of course he will try to insulate his followers from the inevitable negative news stories Trump himself generates by word and misdeed. Trump does this by attacking the press, and you fall for it.
 
Old 10-22-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: NH
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That is Democratic Party. A person might be a democrat, the party is democratic, and it lives up to it's name.

And no, the media is not in the pocket of the Democratic party. What the media and the general public have in common is a desire to know and disseminate the truth.

Trump has a problem with the truth getting around (which is why he imposes non-disclosure 'muzzling' on everyone he comes in contact with), so of course he will try to insulate his followers from the inevitable negative news stories Trump himself generates by word and misdeed. Trump does this by attacking the press, and you fall for it.
The problem with the general public relying on the media for the truth is that the media is bias. The media takes the truth and twists it so that they can sway the general public in whichever way they want because they know they will believe it. The same news story can be delivered in two different ways, neither in most instances are the full truth. I like to leave the media out of politics and form my own opinions based on the facts that I do my research on. There are too many "facts" out there that have been formed from bias news sources. Instead of uniting the nation, the media has instead managed to make politics divide the nation.
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