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Old 10-22-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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Agreed. But I don't want to make this a partisan discussion.

What is important is for Americans to be engaged in our own country's actions and to know of the crimes OUR government commits so we can work on changing them.
At this moment there is an army of 5000 or so with about 70% single men marching to our south border ,before anything happens to pi$$ you off about big bad America, what should America do about it.?
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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Look, be that as it may, that doesn't make the US or the US companies that built these weapons responsible for their use.

Noone held a gun to our head to sell to criminals.

What do you think of our policy of going after weapons dealers that sell to terrorists?
They are just trying to make a profit.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:43 PM
 
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Is this supposed to matter? I'm not losing sleep tonight.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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So...……...when Stalin killed 30 million Russians it was a good thing???
I don't know how you got that from my post, but that is not what I was saying at all, I was talking about modern day Russia.

Furthermore the most educated accounts about deaths directly caused by Stalin at 3-5 million, during a period of famine and crop failures.

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Old 10-22-2018, 05:47 PM
 
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So...……...when Stalin killed 30 million Russians it was a good thing???
Stalin was a Statist that looked at people that did not support his regime and did not work as useless eaters and sent them to the gulags to work for the motherland.

I have seen more people aligned to the extreme right, support Stalin's position than people on the extreme left.

If you do not work, you do not eat is the Capitalist motto, fine, live on the sidewalks and get some scraps from private charity. With no address, those homeless live on charity soup kitchens and handouts from the private sector.
If you do not work and do not eat, and pollute the sidewalks and slow down my business, you need to be shipped off is the Statist motto.
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You've posted this same lie previously. No US Forces were involved. Please stop lying.

And who cares anyway? Its not an American, why should Americans care if some foreigner on the other side of the planet lives or dies?
Who do you think is supplying them with weaponry?
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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There is no evidence that the US did any of these things to support this mission. You are referring to things that have occurred in the past. You have no way to know what happened for THIS operation.

You'd like to assume the worst...the reality is that you don't know.

BTW there is no "on the ground" targeting assist for this kind of a strike. Observers are only used for anti-personnel missions in scenarios where a target needs to be designated because it is impossible to identify from the air. Given the topography and location, there was no FO support for this airstrike.

So what else you got?
Who do you think trains the Saudi pilots? Who do you think supplies the Saudis with those planes? Who do you think supplies the Saudis with the repair parts and who do you think fixes those planes?
This is all NATO backed. Another reason to get out of NATO and follow the Constitution when it comes to foreign policy.

The New York Times is reporting on Thursday that there are actually a small number of US special forces on the ground at the Saudi border with Yemen. Those troops have not only been on the ground since late 2017, but are there on a mission to help the Saudi military fight Yemen’s Shi’ite Houthi movement.

US Army Special Forces Secretly Sent to Fight Houthis in Yemen

Mattis now admits the US is “doing the planning” in Yemen strikes, and has shown the Saudis how the concept of a no-strike zone is supposed to work, and engaged in a maturing process of “battlefield management” intended to see Saudi strikes killing fewer civilians.

Mattis also tried to spin the already established US involvement in mid-air refueling as beneficial for civilians being bombed. He warned Saudi bombers would make “rash or hasty decisions” if they had to worry about running out of fuel before bombing a place, and might take less time to avoid hitting civilian targets.


US Admits "Doing The Planning" For Saudi Strikes In Yemen

On the day Secretary of State Mike Pompeo certified that the Saudi-UAE coalition was doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties in its war on Yemen, the Saudis hit another civilian bus, killing at least 15. Last month the Saudis attacked another civilian bus killing at least 40 children. The US government is a partner with the Saudis and is complicit in the slaughter of civilians. Congress complains, but does nothing...

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Old 10-23-2018, 12:53 PM
 
Location: USA
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Because people don't know what to do about it. No one asked me if I wanted to arm the Saudis - not this year or the past 30 years.

How can we the people stop it?

You can't, "They pay too well"
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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Who do you think trains the Saudi pilots? Who do you think supplies the Saudis with those planes? Who do you think supplies the Saudis with the repair parts and who do you think fixes those planes?
This is all NATO backed. Another reason to get out of NATO and follow the Constitution when it comes to foreign policy.

The New York Times is reporting on Thursday that there are actually a small number of US special forces on the ground at the Saudi border with Yemen. Those troops have not only been on the ground since late 2017, but are there on a mission to help the Saudi military fight Yemen’s Shi’ite Houthi movement.

US Army Special Forces Secretly Sent to Fight Houthis in Yemen

Mattis now admits the US is “doing the planning” in Yemen strikes, and has shown the Saudis how the concept of a no-strike zone is supposed to work, and engaged in a maturing process of “battlefield management” intended to see Saudi strikes killing fewer civilians.

Mattis also tried to spin the already established US involvement in mid-air refueling as beneficial for civilians being bombed. He warned Saudi bombers would make “rash or hasty decisions” if they had to worry about running out of fuel before bombing a place, and might take less time to avoid hitting civilian targets.


US Admits "Doing The Planning" For Saudi Strikes In Yemen

On the day Secretary of State Mike Pompeo certified that the Saudi-UAE coalition was doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties in its war on Yemen, the Saudis hit another civilian bus, killing at least 15. Last month the Saudis attacked another civilian bus killing at least 40 children. The US government is a partner with the Saudis and is complicit in the slaughter of civilians. Congress complains, but does nothing...
Right so you found an article about something that happened in the past, but again, you have no knowledge of what is happening NOW, or what happened with THIS operation/strike.
We are not responsible for what the Saudis do.
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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You've posted this same lie previously. No US Forces were involved. Please stop lying.

And who cares anyway? Its not an American, why should Americans care if some foreigner on the other side of the planet lives or dies?
Americans should realize that Saudi Arabia is using the US as its proxy in 1,400-year-long Sunni-Shiite war.
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