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Liberals, Obamanites, Pelosi supporters, Bernie Burnouts, Ocasio-Cortez groupies etc., what would it take for you to reconsider your support of liberalism and the "progressive" failures who keep pushing it?
Would you need to get embarrassed over the constant failure of whatever liberal icon is in power at any given moments, to actually deliver on his/her promises?
Or the increasing lack of law-abiding behavior due to liberals' constant flouting of U.S. laws?
Or the repeated decline of America's economy every time liberals get into power, and persists no matter how long (or short) a time they stay?
No, I'm not going to ask you which non-elected-Democrat would have to render their own equally-suspect opinion to change your mind, as if you had no opinion of your own before that person told you what to think. I don't hold you in such contempt as to believe that would change your minds.
What would it take to get you to change your mind and admit that liberalism is nothing more that a bunch of rosy promises covering up a noxious cloud of prepetual failure?
Not going to answer leading questions. Don't think anything will ever stop me from being liberal. I've only gotten more liberal as I've gotten older. Still waiting to see an actual liberal in a position of power. Probably won't happen here in my lifetime, but a gal can dream.
Liberals, Obamanites, Pelosi supporters, Bernie Burnouts, Ocasio-Cortez groupies etc., what would it take for you to reconsider your support of liberalism and the "progressive" failures who keep pushing it?
China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium
With the exception of China, every single one of those nations has top-notch quality of life. And they all have heavy socialist tendencies. They would have to get really, really bad to convince me that socialism there doesn't work. But since they've had heavy-handed government sectors for a very long time, if they were going to ever become spectacular failures, it would have happened by now.
Or the repeated decline of America's economy every time liberals get into power, and persists no matter how long (or short) a time they stay?
And this, too, I can easily refute. As I've posted many times, here it is again. When:
1. Democrat Jimmy Carter was president
2. Democrats controlled both houses of congress.
Much is made on this forum and elsewhere of the two or three great boom times post-WWII: The mid-80's and the mid-late 90's (with the mid-late 60's also often cited).
However, I think if we were to pick two consecutive most-booming-years, 1977-78 would give 1983-84 and 1997-98 (or any two consecutive years from 1994-99) a run for their money, and maybe even come out ahead. Here are some numbers for those two years:
Those two years are #3 and #2 respectively for the years post-WWII with the highest payroll job additions in absolute numbers. #1 is 1946 -- which, being the year after WWII ended, is going to be under somewhat unusual circumstances. 1984 is #6, 1994 is #7, 1983 is #9 and 1997 is #10. In the 60's, 1965 and 66 are the two highest ones at #18 and #19. If you calculate those as a % of total payrolls they're going to come out higher, of course, but I didn't bother doing that. And that said, since payrolls in 1977-78 were smaller than both the 80's and 90's booms, their booming-ness is all the more greater than those other two boom periods.
GDP, similarly, was also spectacular, albeit less so than payrolls, though it was also highly variable. That said, it does feature one quarter which is nothing short of jaw-dropping (note: this was not realized until recently while the BEA was doing benchmark revisions of previous years).
On an annual basis, those two years grew 4.6% and 5.6% respectively. In this category, 1984 beats out both with a 7.3% annual growth rate for the whole year.
Of course, the downside to all this booming growth was that inflation was going through the roof - which, of course, is why most people don't usually remember them as boom years. In 1977 the annual inflation rate was 6.3% and 1978 it was 7.4% (source). Though they were certainly high, those two years did still not match the peak years of 1979-81 in which the inflation rate was 9.8%, 12.4% and 10.4%.
Maybe if I get ambitious I'll look at some other data sets for those years (housing starts, etc).
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