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Old 10-24-2018, 10:28 AM
 
Location: North America
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Not supposed to receive but I bet a lot of them do get free money.
Proof isn't defined as "I bet a lot of them do get free money".
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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No. Your beloved Dump refused that. Graham and Durbin had a bipartisan agreement that included Dreamers AND the wall but Dump couldn't make up his mind until Stephen Miller told him NO.



Some people can only feel good about themselves when they are causing others pain. The Dreamers are paying taxes instead of collecting Medicare - they should stay.

It's the only SMART thing todo.
Are you using an alternative fact?

I was watching the whole show. The dreamers have been angry at the Democraps ever since.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Democrats are users.


Just watch them in action.
They need to create a victim, so they can put envy into their heads.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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Hopefully they'll stop dreaming and return to their country of origin. They're grown adults not children.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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They're still dreaming for a deal to stay (which will never happen under Trump).
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Hopefully they'll stop dreaming and return to their country of origin. They're grown adults not children.
Absurd post. They are as American as anyone else here. This country is the only one most of them have ever known. Kicking them out would be an absurd self inflicted wound to this country and a great reduction of human capital. These are not the type of illegals who only do cleaning or farm work. They are in general educated and capable in a wide range of disciplines.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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Absurd post. They are as American as anyone else here.
Nope. An illegal immigrant is not an American at all, irrespective of what age they were when they came to the United States. And no they are not entitled to the rights of American citizens.

If we allow them to do this, it would only encourage more people to smuggle children into the United States.

We have to say "No" if we ever want to stop this problem. No one can come to the United States unlawfully and expect citizenship or a path to legal status. No exceptions.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Nope. An illegal immigrant is not an American at all
Obviously was not referring to their legal status, but to their personal identity. They are culturally just as much Americans as any of us.
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Old 10-24-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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Absurd post. They are as American as anyone else here. This country is the only one most of them have ever known. Kicking them out would be an absurd self inflicted wound to this country and a great reduction of human capital. These are not the type of illegals who only do cleaning or farm work. They are in general educated and capable in a wide range of disciplines.

You're not an American unless you have citizenship papers! BS to "this is the only country they've ever known also". Most were brought here after the age of 6 and were taught the culture and language of their homelands by their parents. I'm sure many of them still have relatives in their homelands also. Not our problem anyway.


No, the self-inflicted wound would be allowing them to benefit from their parent's law breaking and it would also be rewarding their parents for bringing them here illegally. We don't need 1.8 million so-called Dreamers competing for jobs and resources against Americans. What would you do with their parents? Can't have that separation of families thingy, now can we?


They can take the education we gave them and go back to their homelands and make their own countries better or go back and apply to come back legally while they wait in line behind those who have already applied. That's the only fair thing to do.
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Old 10-24-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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Law abiding? No, their very presence violates law.

They can be jailed for illegal entry and continuous illegal presence. Many are on welfare and thus violate public charge laws.

8 USC 1182

You are wrong on all counts.

When they turned 18 1/2 they were responsible for their own status in our country and therefore became illegal aliens themselves.
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