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You could not understand my comment above #52. Saying that Nazism is similar to today's left is not only wrong
It's not wrong. The US left is also implementing fascism by shutting down free speech on college campuses, etc. How can you not see all the parallels? Americans are rejecting the left's fascism, and the left responds by throwing violent temper tantrums, Kristallnacht-like temper tantrums including vandalism, looting, etc.
It's not wrong. The US left is also implementing fascism by shutting down free speech on college campuses, etc. How can you not see all the parallels? Americans are rejecting the left's fascism, and the left responds by throwing violent temper tantrums, Kristallnacht-like temper tantrums including vandalism, looting, etc.
Did you read my entire comment before you responded? I'll give a real world example of how free speech is being shut down.
There was an incident in Tennessee where a few students posted racists comments online, then AIPAC influenced the religious groups in the university so the authorities take stronger measures against anti-Semitism. The students were surprised, "What are you talking about?" they said, "There is no such problem".
That is how it works, pay money to politicians to act on certain policies.
I would honestly advice you that you to read at least 10 times what I wrote before so you are not so clueless.
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You could not understand my comment above #52. Saying that Nazism is similar to today's left is not only wrong, it shows you DO NOT understand what Hitler stood for. I am going to write it in colors maybe you'll see how things are.
Hitlers' view: red
Marxism: blue
Hitler stood for nationalism and the Aryan race. He saw the state as equal to National Socialism, or Nazism as we know it.
The National Socialist program replaces the liberalistic conception of the individual by the conception of a people bound by their blood to the soil.
The left today, is similar to Marxism, not Nazism. Here it is as Hitler put it:
By Marxism I understand a doctrine which in principle rejects the idea of the worth of personality, which replaces individual energy by the masses and thereby works the destruction of our whole cultural life.
Do you see how the match correctly with today's right and left? I am only talking about ideology and rhetoric, not actual policies. Other people take care of the actual policies, the right/left paradigm is just to keep people arguing about things that don't matter. The problem is that people's biases allow them to see that the criticism on the party they oppose is correct, but prevent them to see the criticism on their own party.
Hitler hated Marxism because they were equivalent to what the left is today. You would know this if you could comprehend the quotes from my comment above. Try again.
Both sides are manipulating the people based on their inclinations, the reality is that what is done depends on something quite different. That is a matter of lobbying: how much money can rich people throw at politicians.
Did you read my entire comment before you responded?
Yes. You're denying that Hitler was heavily influenced by Marx. So was Mussolini.
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I'll give a real world example of how free speech is being shut down.
There was an incident in Tennessee where a few students posted racists comments online, then AIPAC influenced the religious groups in the university so the authorities take stronger measures against anti-Semitism. The students were surprised, "What are you talking about?" they said, "There is no such problem".
I'm talking about banning conservative speakers from college campuses, accompanied by the left-wing rioting, vandalizing, destroying both public and private property, and physical attacks on others (e.g., the bike lock swinging professor). Why do so? Anyone who's not interested in that perspective can just simply not attend the presentation. Why the compulsion on the left to reenact Kristallnacht? That was the response to Milo Y at Berkeley. Milo is Jewish and gay, by the way, and the left-wing committed horrible acts of hate speech against him.
Yes. You're denying that Hitler was heavily influenced by Marx. So was Mussolini.
I'm talking about banning conservative speakers from college campuses, accompanied by the left-wing rioting, vandalizing, destroying both public and private property, and physical attacks on others (e.g., the bike lock swinging professor). Why do so? Anyone who's not interested in that perspective can just simply not attend the presentation. Why the compulsion on the left to reenact Kristallnacht? That was the response to Milo Y at Berkeley. Milo is Jewish and gay, by the way, and the left-wing committed horrible acts of hate speech against him.
Marx wrote his most influential works after he got to London; Hitler was influenced by truly nationalistic Germans. So you are confusing two ideologies that took "socialism" as the core, but in practice are very different.
Banning conservative speakers? Milo is a gay atheist. You are very confused. Milo is seen as a neo-nazi, white nationalist. [good example of Nazis influence to the right]
You are against this organized group thinking of the left, but can't see the right works in the exact same way with a different view. Neither view really matters; the left/right paradigm is the lower level that manipulates people's views: at the higher level quite different people are in control.
Marx wrote his most influential works after he got to London; Hitler was influenced by truly nationalistic Germans. So you are confusing two ideologies that took "socialism" as the core, but in practice are very difference.
Banning conservative speakers? Milo is a gay atheist. You are very confused. Milo is seen as a neo-nazi, white nationalist.
You are against this organized group thinking of the left, but can't see the right works in the exact same way with a different view. Neither view really matters; the left/right paradigm is the lower level that manipulates people's views: at the higher level quite different people are in control.
He was influenced by Marx. He was influenced by how much he hated Marx and communism.
Trump supporters like to brag about improving economical trends, but unfortunately most of the money continues to flow to the 1%.
Do the Rich Capture All the Gains from Economic Growth?
How much of that growth has gone to the average person? According to many economists, the answer is close to zero.
In a recent gloomy study of the American economy, Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez, and Gabriel Zucman find that almost none of the gains from economic growth accrued to the bottom half of the population... Piketty, Saez, and Zucman also found that incomes of the top 1% tripled over the same time period.
In a measurement wherein you would be calculating a per capita increase for finite money flows, how on Earth do you expect to measure an increase for "the bottom half" of the nation when you are simultaneously intent on massively accelerating their numbers via:
1. illegal immigration,
2.legal mass immigration, and
3.welfare incentivized births?
Why you people don't ever get wealthier, as an economic group, is no mystery.
You can't even grasp the simplest of math and economic concepts.
How on Earth do you justify more wealth when you clearly aren't fit do do anything that isn't low skill labor (see that you can't math) and are willing to forever finance a rise in your population at a much greater rate than any other group?
All while you aren't even creating more jobs, but merely demanding more of them as you vastly increase the number of job seekers, as if job creation is some kind of magic ability that doesn't require someone a whole lot smarter than you to create (you know, the people that you hate and don't think deserve more money than you do).
Grow up children. Stop going through life in an emotional haze of confusion and self-contradiction.
The Republicans just keep getting us in more debt. The tax scam Trump enacted was just for his rich buddies and the poor didn’t even get crumbs. That’s the Republican way. Don’t think your going to get any meaningful insurance under these clowns either.
I agree with that, but that is not what InformedConsent is saying. He believes they're the same thing.
I know, IC has a very distorted view on Nazism and Communism.
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Yep, it's all going to the rich
