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Old 10-26-2018, 08:20 PM
 
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The one true God. The universal church. The conversion of all. Holy war.

Monotheism is a very powerful idea with some nasty side effects. Namely, it is totalizing. If there is one god with one law, then surely all must be bound by that law?

Sounds good in theory until you realize that the interpreters of the law are imperfect and make themselves into god.

It's happened so many times I think we should just chuck the whole idea.

It's nice to dwell on the idea of one true God. But to put it into practice?
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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Religion is ultimately very totalitarian and fascistic, that's true.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:24 PM
 
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The one true God. The universal church. The conversion of all. Holy war.

Monotheism is a very powerful idea with some nasty side effects. Namely, it is totalizing. If there is one god with one law, then surely all must be bound by that law?

Sounds good in theory until you realize that the interpreters of the law are imperfect and make themselves into god.

It's happened so many times I think we should just chuck the whole idea.

It's nice to dwell on the idea of one true God. But to put it into practice?
Any parallels between this and the paradigm of statism?
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:32 PM
 
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Any parallels between this and the paradigm of statism?
Religion is a tool of the state to reduce enforcement costs by obtaining consent and legitimacy. Since the non-aggression principle rejects force, maybe you can devise a religion to convert people rather than subjugate them.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Religion is a tool of the state to reduce enforcement costs by obtaining consent and legitimacy. Since the non-aggression principle rejects force, maybe you can devise a religion to convert people rather than subjugate them.
I don't want to subjugate anyone. That's why I'm not religious or political. Neither will take me.

That's my "problem".

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Old 10-26-2018, 09:38 PM
 
Location: New Jersey (Europe Sep ‘19)
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John 3:16
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Old 10-26-2018, 10:17 PM
 
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The end result of any belief system political, religious could be totalitarian if taken to the extreme. I don't accept that the three religions are particularly similar or the "Abrahamic tradition". Totalitarianism isn't the case for Christianity. It is voluntary and based on faith. Was more or less separate from the state since its founding. Doesn't really have any laws or one interpretation, as there are many sects. Doesn't specifically condone violence or force since the "old law" or old testament was replaced with it. It's actually quiet pacifist and Christians tend to be the ones oppressed rather than vice versa. Hasn't shown to be particularly totalitarian in its long history.


I can't necessary say the same for the other so called "Abrahamic religion".
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