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Old 10-28-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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Yeah best economy in 50 years, lowest unemployment ever.....I can barely breathe from choking on all the smoke on the so called dumpster fire.
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Old 10-28-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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Trump just said last night the ny stock exchange opened up the day after 9/11. That’s a lie. Who’s at fault for the lie? The media or trump?
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Old 10-28-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Its the lowest unemployment in a decade - not forever. Since Trump took office, 3.5 million jobs have been created - about 2.2 million in his first year. That’s great, but there were more jobs added every year of Obama’s second term. The economy was in excellent shape in 2016 - Trump inherited a good economy and took credit for it. Typical. Those are the facts. That’s what the media is reporting. Again, it’s easy to see why the media and Trump are at odds.
Obama did not have nearly the quarterly GDP growth Trump has had so far. Those are the facts the media tries to hide. We essentially have full employment under Trump. Not so under Obama. It was the worst recovery since the Great Depression under Obama, and any economic positive were in SPITE of his policies.
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Old 10-28-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: United States
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By faulting a mainstream that, properly speaking, is no longer there, we express our desire to have a functioning mainstream like the one we suppose operated decades ago. There’s no guarantee that we can ever have that again.
There Is No Mainstream Anymore » CultureRamp


Now consumers of news have numerous outlets to get information. The reality is that people are more apt to question the motivations and substance of the traditional sources of news: Thank you, Dan Rather, for "The Memogate" controversy. The all-out assault waged by the traditional media against President Bush didn't work.
Mainstream Media Not So Mainstream Anymore


To have a mainstream media, there has to be a main stream, and there isn’t. The term has survived solely as a term of approbation that can instantly be used to declare oneself the victim of a grand conspiracy to distort the truth. This does not mean that media sources are not biased. All of the evidence suggests that they are more biased than ever. But they are not all biased in the same direction. This means that anyone, on any side of any issue can seize upon an instance of bias in a particular media source and then pretend that it is still 1985, when it was possible to generalize that sort of bias to an entire media culture.

Welcome to the information age, where everybody has access to an inexhaustible supply of news reports, commentary, and outrage that confirms whatever he or she happens to believe. We do not have a main stream anymore; we have a hundred thousand garden hoses. If you ever come across an opinion that does not match you own in every regard, you have no one to blame but yourself.

https://ivn.us/2014/01/11/myth-mainstream-media/




I don't think of the mainstream media as biased, I just don't think of it as not mainstream anymore. I think Trump is still living in the 80's and he still thinks what he see's on the TV is important or matters.

There is still a mainstream media, they are just not legitimate media outlets anymore.

Fact base reporting is gone, replaced with narrative based reporting.

For those that think 80%-90% of the negative reporting on Trump is legit, you are without any doubt completely out of touch with reality.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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There is still a mainstream media, they are just not legitimate media outlets anymore.

Fact base reporting is gone, replaced with narrative based reporting.

For those that think 80%-90% of the negative reporting on Trump is legit, you are without any doubt completely out of touch with reality.
^^^^^^This. As you say it is narrative, and leftist agenda based propaganda. If it doesn't fit their agenda it either doesn't get broadcast, or it is changed to fit their agenda. They will also create stories citing "sources" which of course are anonymous.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Trump just said last night the ny stock exchange opened up the day after 9/11. That’s a lie. Who’s at fault for the lie? The media or trump?
A lie is a DELIBERATE attempt to deceive which is unknown in that case since we can’t read Trump’s mind. Obama when he repeated over and over, many different times and places, the same falsehood, that if you liked your doctor you can keep your doctor was telling a lie in my opinion, either that or grossly negligent in understanding his own policies. Especially with later comments from one of the architects that it relied on the stupidity of the American people to become law.

Everyone makes mistakes, everyone. In this case, like Obama’s 57 states comments, it wasn’t a lie, it was almost certainly a mistake.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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Harvard released a study done on the "media" outlets of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and the main newscasts on CNN, CBS, FOX, and NBC during Trumps 1st 100 days in office.

You can deny the existence of media bias, although if you just turn on CNN you'll see a all-day all-the-time diatribe against Trump, it's good to find a study from a pre-dominantly liberal college backing up what we've been saying for years.

80% of the coverage in Trumps first 100 days was negative compared to 20% positive. This number would be higher of course if they hadn't included FOX news into the mix, but in the order of fairness, I'm glad they included FOX.

That’s a big change from the past. When the Chosen One, Barack Obama, completed his first 100 days, a similar study found that coverage was 59 percent positive, 41 percent negative. Skewed, but not that bad. The numbers were flipped for George W. Bush, of course: 57 percent negative, 43 percent positive. For Bill Clinton, way back in 1993, in the days when news was news (which means reporters were hard on the president regardless of his political affiliation), the coverage was 60 percent negative, 40 percent positive.

The worst offender was CBS in which 91% of their coverage of Trump was negative. Only 9% positive... Sad that so many in the media cannot support a President, or at least do their jobs, which is remain impartial and just report the news...

Here's the article: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...verage-is-neg/
But do you remember what happened in the first 90 days. He completely botched that Immigration Executive Order. What was the media suppose to do -- praise him for his incompetence, ignore the mess created stranding folks with legal status all over the world.

You can't make things positive when they are a mess.

You just can't.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:13 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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How many times does it have to be said? The coverage on Trump is bad because he IS bad. He is a train wreck. The media just reports his bungling and incompetence as it daily unfolds. Other presidents from both parties got "better" coverage because their were none that sunk to Trump's abysmal performance level or behaved like a buffoon degrading the office, embarrassing the nation, and shaming us before the world. Factual reporting is not bias.
This. And since Trump supporters keep insisting the negative press is some media conspiracy against Trump, put your money where your mouth is. Post information in which he didn't say something stupid, racist, bigoted, dishonest, or sexist. In other words, something in which he acted presidential.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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Media coverage of government is supposed to be largely negative. They are a check on government power. Not there just to run puff pieces for our “rulers”.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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How many times does it have to be said? The coverage on Trump is bad because he IS bad. He is a train wreck. The media just reports his bungling and incompetence as it daily unfolds. Other presidents from both parties got "better" coverage because their were none that sunk to Trump's abysmal performance level or behaved like a buffoon degrading the office, embarrassing the nation, and shaming us before the world. Factual reporting is not bias.
WRONG

There were plenty of things bad about Obama that the MSM ignored or covered for. All one needs to do is read Sharyl Attkisson's book to see exactly how she was praised and encouraged by CBS when she went after Bush and Republicans, but was stymied and thwarted when she tried to with Obama & Co ;


https://www.amazon.com/Stonewalled-O.../dp/0062322850

Even liberal commentator Kirsten Powers wrote a book about the media bias and their suppression of free speech;

https://www.amazon.com/Silencing-Lef...G1CKP6VCSA1P1K


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As to the overall threads theme, including Fox was good, but if you took everyone with the exception of Fox, you'd see the 80% negative climb to 90%+
The media has been left wing since the 1960's, and has gotten more so over the decades. They were highly critical of every (R) president, yet seem to take it down a few notches whenever a (D) is in the WH.
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