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View Poll Results: What the bigger threat AR-15s or MS-13
AR-15 semi-automatics unrestricted access 11 23.91%
MS-13 people entering from Mexico 31 67.39%
Both 1 2.17%
Neither 3 6.52%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-30-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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I'd say

Fast Food
Cars
Medication (legal) and medical mistakes
Tylenol
Booze - and illegal drugs

and perhaps some others are WAY above AR-15's.

But total gun violence is definitely on the list with 10's of thousands of victims per year.

I take an "all of the above" approach.

 
Old 10-30-2018, 05:38 PM
 
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Here's a challenge. Spend an entire night alone in a house full of AR-15s. Then spend a night alone in a house full of MS-13 gang members. Let us know how that works out for you.
If I was a heroin smuggler looking for distribution - and generally non-violent, I'd take the MS-13 folks, especially with one or two AR packing bodyguards protecting me while I set up some business.

Sort of a silly challenge tho. I had a buddy who ferried nuclear weapons all over the world. He slept in the plane right next to a batch of them....for many years.

Does that mean they are not dangerous? Well, using the "logic" of some here, one White Supremeist in Pittsburgh did vastly more harm than all those nukes, so it must be that GAB members are more dangerous than nuclear weapons.

I love the current "logic" in vogue among the masses.....
 
Old 10-30-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I'd say overall, Corporate media + identity politics = total disaster.

In term of AR-15 or MS-13s, I'd say MS-13 is a bigger threat because responsible gun owners know how to handle AR-15.
 
Old 10-30-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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How could any inanimate non living object be more dangerous than an actual gang.


When my AR-15 gets out of the safe, loads up 12 30 round magazines and unassisted goes out and kills a bunch of innocent people that is the day that not only be will I be concerned about; that is the day that I will then get rid of it, as it would now be a true weapon of mass destruction; and out of human control.
 
Old 10-30-2018, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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AR15's do absolutely nothing on their own.
MS 13 members torture and kill people.

Liberals are a bigger threat to the US than either.
 
Old 10-30-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Here's a challenge. Spend an entire night alone in a house full of AR-15s. Then spend a night alone in a house full of MS-13 gang members. Let us know how that works out for you.
The stupid original post poll just got whacked! Well done and spot on!
 
Old 10-30-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I'd say

Fast Food
Cars
Medication (legal) and medical mistakes
Tylenol
Booze - and illegal drugs

and perhaps some others are WAY above AR-15's.

But total gun violence is definitely on the list with 10's of thousands of victims per year.

I take an "all of the above" approach.
There aren't "10's of thousands of victims" per year. People who kill themselves with a gun aren't a victim of "gun violence". I'm sure you're all broken up about the thousands of repeat felons killed by other repeat felons too. There are hundreds of innocent victims per year, and over 160,000 people who are still alive because they had a firearm. It's sad liberals would trade all those lives for their ignorant political agenda.
 
Old 10-30-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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MS 13, as they are the ones who use AR 15's improperly.
Thier weapon of choice is the machete, not guns.

They target mostly fellow Salvidorians.
 
Old 10-30-2018, 07:59 PM
 
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Neither is MS-13 much of a threat.

In fact, what violence they do commit is mostly against illegal immigrants. Would think Trump would be supporting them as a deterrent.
CENTRAL ISLIP, N.Y. (AP) ” Federal prosecutors said Thursday they had captured the members of a violent street gang who killed three high school students, including two girls who were inseparable best friends and were attacked with a machete and baseball bats as they walked through their suburban neighborhood.

Thirteen members of local cliques of the MS-13 street gang were charged with a slew of violent crimes and seven killings over a five-year period, prosecutors and police said.

MS-13 gang suspects indicted in slayings of 3 teenagers - News - providencejournal.com - Providence, RI
 
Old 10-30-2018, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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If I was a heroin smuggler looking for distribution - and generally non-violent, I'd take the MS-13 folks, especially with one or two AR packing bodyguards protecting me while I set up some business.

Sort of a silly challenge tho. I had a buddy who ferried nuclear weapons all over the world. He slept in the plane right next to a batch of them....for many years.

Does that mean they are not dangerous? Well, using the "logic" of some here, one White Supremeist in Pittsburgh did vastly more harm than all those nukes, so it must be that GAB members are more dangerous than nuclear weapons.

I love the current "logic" in vogue among the masses.....
MS-13 has no central leadership. It is not a cartel.

Their weapon of choice is the machete, not firearms.
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