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Old 11-02-2018, 08:49 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Friday jobs report better than expected at 250,000 and the unemployment rate held at 3.7% Jobs not Mobs, MAGA !!!

Trump produces jobs and strong economy. That's how to MAGA !!!

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sto...dist=bigcharts
Unemployment rate by year,

2009- 9.9%
2010- 9.3%
2011- 8.5%
2012- 7.9%
2013- 6.7%
2014- 5.6%
2015- 5.0%
2016- 4.7%
2017- 4.1%
2018- 3.8%

Under Obama the unemployment rate fell from 9.9% to 4.7% (a decrease of 5.2%)
Under Trump the unemployment rate fell from 4.1% to 3.8% (a decrease of 0.3%)
https://www.thebalance.com/unemploym...y-year-3305506
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

In Obama's last 11 months in office 2.09 million jobs were added.
In the last 11 months while Trump was in office 1.84 million jobs were added.
Trump's first-year jobs record was strong. Just not as strong as Obama's last year - Jan. 5, 2018

Could you please explain how Donald Trump deserves more credit and praise than Obama for lowering the unemployment rate?
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Old 11-02-2018, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Both parties are bought and paid for by the elite moneyed interest of those who have the most money.

The elites should get they blame directly not any political party. Elites play the tune the political puppets dance to. They remain at the top of the food chain no matter what the economy does. They will not go hungry or worry about the things main street Joe has to deal with.
It would be like blaming the symptom for the disease. The disease produces the symptom not the other way around.
I agree and the Dems are in a push-pull war right now and ironically the people want the pull away from it. Part of why Trump won was because people thought he would remove the elite, despite being an elite himself. I saw through this and can't take his tariffs seriously when he and his daughter use foreign labor for their clothing brand and his hotels seek H1-b visa workers rather than raise wages to be competitive in the employer/employee markets they operate in.

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There has always been available jobs. Retail stores are always hiring. The problem is no wants these low paying jobs. I'd like to hear about these new jobs though. What are their benefits. Do these companies provide healthcare, 401k plans and retirement benefits.
Many don't because they part-time with the potential of being full-time. Also I know many school districts have a HIGH turnover rate for support staff (instructional assistants, paraprofessionals, etc.) as well as teachers. I know one who I work(ed) with as a security guard for events (he is a supervisor) and he left the high school we both worked at at the end of the year (I did at the end of March and started at an in district elementary school.) He was allegedly replaced by a long-term substitute for this year. Don't you think the long-term sub would jump if offered a contract teaching job with benefits? Case in point even the public sector nickels and dimes workers.

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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Well we sacrificed an awful lot of debt for a few tenths of unemployment decrease that very well may have occurred anyway. Do you attribute the employment numbers to a tax decrease that was only put in place in January 2018, or was there some other policy.




Those are average wage gains heavily influenced by the wage gains for the top brackets, there was some gains for middle class but mostly stagnant.
Yep. To quote a song nearly 20 years old "Maria Maria" while the rich are getting richer, the poor is getting poorer. Add in inflation, health insurance rates and gas prices and it is am effective wage cut.

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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
Unemployment rate by year,

2009- 9.9%
2010- 9.3%
2011- 8.5%
2012- 7.9%
2013- 6.7%
2014- 5.6%
2015- 5.0%
2016- 4.7%
2017- 4.1%
2018- 3.8%

Under Obama the unemployment rate fell from 9.9% to 4.7% (a decrease of 5.2%)
Under Trump the unemployment rate fell from 4.1% to 3.8% (a decrease of 0.3%)
https://www.thebalance.com/unemploym...y-year-3305506
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

In Obama's last 11 months in office 2.09 million jobs were added.
In the last 11 months while Trump was in office 1.84 million jobs were added.
Trump's first-year jobs record was strong. Just not as strong as Obama's last year - Jan. 5, 2018

Could you please explain how Donald Trump deserves more credit and praise than Obama for lowering the unemployment rate?
It is because there is an R to Trump's name on the ballot while Obama was a D. That is what it really is.
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Old 11-02-2018, 09:29 PM
 
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superb report.
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Old 11-02-2018, 09:40 PM
 
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Wages are also up!
Yes, this is what I’ve been looking for. Knew it was only a matter of time with the GDP growth north of 3% and unemployment at 49 year lows. Make that money America!
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Yes, this is what I’ve been looking for. Knew it was only a matter of time with the GDP growth north of 3% and unemployment at 49 year lows. Make that money America!
I'll say this, most people will truly believe it when they see it in their bi-weekly checks. To them it will feel like a shell game or they do all this work for nothing. I work in a public school district so I can't judge really but the whole Trump tax decrease was actually pretty miniscule in my bi-weekly check.
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Old 11-03-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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You can't pass a Burger King in New Mexico without seeing a 'HELP WANTED' sign.

Thanks, Trump. MAGA.
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Old 11-03-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: The 719
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It's actually 761,000 jobs, and the UE Rate is 3.5%.

The UE Rate dropped from 3.6% in September to 3.5% in October in spite of the number of unemployed Americans increasing from 5,766,000 to 5,771,000.

That's 4,104,000 jobs so far this year.

The total for 2017 was 3,075,000 and for 2016 it was 2,761,000.

Job growth during Obama's reign was never over 4 Million.

The increase in unemployed workers is due to an increase of people joining the labor force in the strong jobs market. The number not in the labor force decreased from 96,332,000 to 95,792,000 or 540,000.

There was a slight up-tick in both the Labor Force Participation Rate and the Employment-to-Population Ratio.

The number of unemployed Americans is at historic lows.

This is the fourth month this year with less than 6 Million unemployed.

To find that in the past, you have to go back to May 2001 (5.9 Million). There were 8 months in 2000 with less than 6 Million unemployed, 7 months in 1999, 5 months in 1998 and 3 months in 1997.

Before that, you have to go back to November 1979.

Note that between 1997 and 2000 your population was 50-60 Million people less, and 94 Million less in 1979, so it's quite an achievement.
Good points.

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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17 View Post
Ummm..Obarfo the socialst clown has left the WH didn'tcha know..
Obama spent 8 years in his term blaming the economy on Reagan and W. Reagan ended the cold war and W, with our wonderful "Intelligence" Community intel, kept any further terrorism off our soil as good as they could and that did cost a lot of money, blood, etc. Obama inherited a huge housing bubble-banking crisis. Bipartisan Congress Bailed The Criminals Out! We all know the story. The Government Bailed The Criminals Out!

Enter Trump.

Obama: you didn't build that. You Republicans can come along, you'll have to sit in the back of the bus. Those manufacturing jobs aren't ever coming back. Hillary: coal is dead.

Enter growing economy despite Resistance, Rinos, Russia Russia Russia Stormy Putin, CIA, FBI, NSA, Lamestream Blamestream Fakestream Mainstream media, Hollywood, SNL, Clinton Foundation, Clinton Campaign, Soros, Obama Administration, CNN plus Donna Brazille, Loretta Lynch plus Bill Clinton, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Mueller...

Obama: well Trump didn't do all that! Guess who did that!

All y'all did for the last two years, the lot of ya is suck Y'alls thumbs and go Waa! Not My Pwesident! Waa!

Y'all get credit for nuthin.

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Old 11-03-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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It's actually 761,000 jobs, and the UE Rate is 3.5%.

The UE Rate dropped from 3.6% in September to 3.5% in October in spite of the number of unemployed Americans increasing from 5,766,000 to 5,771,000.

That's 4,104,000 jobs so far this year.

The total for 2017 was 3,075,000 and for 2016 it was 2,761,000.

Job growth during Obama's reign was never over 4 Million.

The increase in unemployed workers is due to an increase of people joining the labor force in the strong jobs market. The number not in the labor force decreased from 96,332,000 to 95,792,000 or 540,000.

There was a slight up-tick in both the Labor Force Participation Rate and the Employment-to-Population Ratio.

The number of unemployed Americans is at historic lows.

This is the fourth month this year with less than 6 Million unemployed.

To find that in the past, you have to go back to May 2001 (5.9 Million). There were 8 months in 2000 with less than 6 Million unemployed, 7 months in 1999, 5 months in 1998 and 3 months in 1997.

Before that, you have to go back to November 1979.

Note that between 1997 and 2000 your population was 50-60 Million people less, and 94 Million less in 1979, so it's quite an achievement.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b003133ec7d809
About 2.1 million jobs were created last year (2017) , down slightly from the 2.2 million that were added the year before,(2016)

And just to put 2016 into perspective --- job growth while remaining positive had slowed in 2016. from the pace set in 2014 and 2015.
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Old 11-03-2018, 12:54 PM
 
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b003133ec7d809
About 2.1 million jobs were created last year (2017) , down slightly from the 2.2 million that were added the year before,(2016)

And just to put 2016 into perspective --- job growth while remaining positive had slowed in 2016. from the pace set in 2014 and 2015.

If we ignore the changing conditions such as the effects of full employment we can put out the false narrative like the democrats do.
Avoid the heavy lifting and cherry pick numbers to show whatever lie might work is what the democrats have to do to down play a great economy, they could never produce.
Obama's legacy has been trampled into the dust bin of history never to rise again and choke the middleclass.
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Old 11-03-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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Yes, this is what I’ve been looking for. Knew it was only a matter of time with the GDP growth north of 3% and unemployment at 49 year lows. Make that money America!
Amen!

Corp Tax cuts are getting us to great GDP growth. Obama was our first 2 term POTUS w/o a single year of 3% or better growth.

Trump is true Hope & Change.
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