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If these guys--the Stones, Neil Young, Pharrell Williams, Adele, Elton John, REM--Axl Rose--really want Trump to stop playing their music, they shouldn't send him a polite letter.
Trump takes no notice of other's trademarks, copyrights, IP--only his own. What they need to do is tweet about what a terrible job he is doing, or criticize anything about him. That would put a stop to it, since Trump cannot apparently find any country music, Kid Rock or Ted Nugent music that revs people up. Sad!
Trademark? If I bought music from any of these people now I have to worry about infringing on their trademark. Wow, your comment is stupid. Lee Greenwoods "I'm Proud To Be An American" is perfect.
Last edited by CaseyB; 11-04-2018 at 02:36 PM..
Reason: copyright
Trademark? If I bought music from any of these people now I have to worry about infringing on their trademark. Wow, your comment is stupid. Lee Greenwoods "I'm Proud To Be An American" is perfect.
You are confusing physical possession of a recording or sheet music with creative rights of the composer and/or performer of that music. Two different things. Buy a recording, you have the right to play it in your home, your car, your yard, etc. But you do not own the creative rights to it, that stays with the composer and/or performer(s).
ASCAP has even gone after small private traditional dance groups which customarily use recorded music, ironically often recorded music by a group which is good friends of many of those in said groups. ASCAP asks - demands would be more accurate - that royalties be paid in order to use the music as intended, for dancing, at club meetings. We're talking a group of around twelve or fifteen people at most. Doesn't matter, ASCAP wants its cut for its members whom it represents. (In said case, eventually a national umbrella non-profit group took care of it for all the little tiny traditional dance clubs using recorded music out there).
Trump can well afford to pay for whatever music he wants to use at his rallies, and he needs to do this. Getting permission from the artists to use it is another matter, of course, but Trump needs to obey and respect the law.
No, it is NOT legally theirs to play whenever they like in a public arena, as was done here - there was another recent detailed thread dealing with this.
Educate yourself - artists retain creative rights to their work and ASCAP is very much on guard for illegal use of such work without permission or attribution. Sadly, it appears there was some kind of loophole here - I would not be happy with my lawyers if I were Axl Rose. Still, I'd think the creative property rights would still apply.
It appears Trump and his ilk didn't bother with obtaining any kinds of rights, which is both arrogant and stupid of them. Not surprising, though, considering that narcissists always think it's easier to just go right ahead and do as they wish and let someone else deal with the cosequences later.
It's clear Trump etc. once again showed no respect and in fact demonstrated absolute disdain for others' property, wishes, and rights.
Whattaguy, right, Trumpies?
Only inasmuch as liberals NEVER have to worry about the issue, so thanks for making that point.
IOW, proof yet again that it's the left who get their knickers in a wad when Republicans [gasp!] play their music, [gasp!] wear their designs, or [gasp!] hang and display their artwork, which they've purchased, in their own homes.
Only inasmuch as liberals NEVER have to worry about the issue, so thanks for making that point.
IOW, proof yet again that it's the left who get their knickers in a wad when Republicans [gasp!] play their music, [gasp!] wear their designs, or [gasp!] hang and display their artwork, which they've purchased, in their own homes.
Again, physical ownership of creative property, in this case, music, does not entitle the physical owner to the creative rights. Educate yourself. It has nothing to do with your politics, my politics, the musicians' politics, or Trump's politics - it's the law and it is very, very clear.
Only inasmuch as liberals NEVER have to worry about the issue, so thanks for making that point.
IOW, proof yet again that it's the left who get their knickers in a wad when Republicans [gasp!] play their music, [gasp!] wear their designs, or [gasp!] hang and display their artwork, which they've purchased, in their own homes.
Is Trump's home in a rally arena? He and anyone else who has purchased art, music, etc. can still consume it at home. This is about public use. What are your opinions on the legality of that?
No, it is NOT legally theirs to play whenever they like in a public arena, as was done here
So public venues like Grocery Stores, Gyms, Restaurants, Shopping Malls aren't allowed to play music that they legally own?
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