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Old 11-05-2018, 04:24 PM
 
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It's no lie. I posted my source and they included their sources in their study. Shouldn't our number one concern be to keep them out of here simply because it's against our immigration laws anyway? There are so many other negative impacts they bring without even considering the fiscal impact. Let's start with the construction, landscaping jobs that they took from Americans by working for less and yes the employers are equally guilty. Doesn't that matter to you at all?
Nope. A lie.

https://www.cato.org/blog/fairs-fisc...fatally-flawed
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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Is he keeping his promise about Mexico paying for it?

I also find it very ironic that Trump is so opposed to illegal immigrants, yet his resorts employs a whole lot of them. Who do you think is mowing the lawn at Mar-a-Lago? Who is cleaning the rooms at his hotels? Washing dishes at his resorts? Hint, it mostly illegal immigrants.

Read the numerous posts I have made in here concerning Mexico paying for the wall and why even if it doesn't happen it's cost effective and proven to work.


Trump has never been convicted of having illegals working on his properties and even if there were rich people don't hire manual laborers themselves. Don't accuse people of things they have never been convicted of it's blatantly dishonest.
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Oh? Unless we see a check from Mexico paying for this construction, it should be clear to even his most delusional supporters that he does indeed NOT keep his promises!
Wait, liberals don’t like paying for things while telling people they got it for free?

Shocker. With all the expensive social programs and advocacy for free healthcare, liberals of all people should love paying for things and claiming they’re free
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Every one blames the Democrats for the illegals but the Republicans won't do anything about it because they like the cheap labor. How long have they been in control?
The Repiblicans are doing something about. Travel ban, a wall, and going after birthright citizenship
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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Well last year, they had 306,793 apprehensions at the border and 701,900 overstays. Focusing on the wrong things still. Work on Visas and hiring and things first and I think most of the problem will be solved.
Again you have it backwards. Right now we have a proactive president promoting the stopping of illegal aliens and criminals coming into our country. The next president in 4 or more years might decide to stop all interdiction. Thus a wall will be there are a means of helping to keep out illegals regardless of whether we have a president in office serious about dealing with the problem.

As to the other issues, I have no problem with those, but the wall which was suppose to be built many years ago is long overdue and will be a permanent means of deterring illegals.

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Old 11-05-2018, 04:49 PM
 
Location: FL
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Exactly. If he could find enough money to finance the Wall, instead of expecting the American Tax Payers to share the burden of financing it, most people wouldn't have a problem with. (Although I could argue I think there are more effective ways to address the problem, and many think that the wall is a waste of money. But then again, so are things like the "Space Force".)
Agreed!
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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It is simply a bone he is throwing them, and the timing is very strange, with the mid terms and all. But, as we have seen, his supporters will lap it up and brag about it.
Excatly right he’ll gain even more support from them over 18ft of it.
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Old 11-05-2018, 05:02 PM
 
Location: FL
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Read the numerous posts I have made in here concerning Mexico paying for the wall and why even if it doesn't happen it's cost effective and proven to work.


Trump has never been convicted of having illegals working on his properties and even if there were rich people don't hire manual laborers themselves. Don't accuse people of things they have never been convicted of it's blatantly dishonest.
Just because he hasn't been convicted of it doesn't mean he hasn't done it.
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Old 11-05-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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Again you have it backwards. Right now we have a proactive president promoting the stopping of illegal aliens and criminals coming into our country. The next president in 4 or more years might decide to stop all interdiction. Thus a wall will be there are a means of helping to keep out illegals regardless of whether we have a president in office serious about dealing with the problem.

As to the other issues, I have no problem with those, but the wall which was suppose to be built many years ago is long overdue and will be a permanent means of deterring illegals.

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It's not Trump's wall anyway. It's congress' wall from 2006 that they never funded. We already have a lot of visa programs. Those coming here illegally or so-called asylum seekers we don't need as they are the poor, unskilled, uneducated. So, no visas for them.
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Old 11-05-2018, 05:04 PM
 
Location: AZ
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It's no lie. I posted my source and they included their sources in their study. Shouldn't our number one concern be to keep them out of here simply because it's against our immigration laws anyway? There are so many other negative impacts they bring without even considering the fiscal impact. Let's start with the construction, landscaping jobs that they took from Americans by working for less and yes the employers are equally guilty. Doesn't that matter to you at all?
Hahahah, I bet your blood pressure skyrockets when a non-white mows your lawn.

The number you quoted is a lie.
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