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Old 11-03-2018, 01:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's said that when a President is newly elected, two years later when midterm elections come his party loses seats in the House and Senate. Based on this some people are predicting that in this Tuesday's 2018 midterms Republicans will lose enough house seats (more than -23) to fall to a minority there, and might barely hold onto the Senate.

But if you look at the six Presidents we've had most recently before Trump, a different story emerges.

The first midterm is usually when people have had two years to evaluate the actual performance of the new President, see what he actually did, and compare his results to what he promised.

And in that light, new Republican Presidents have done better than the expected average. And new Democrats have done FAR worse.

Democrat . . . . Midterm . . House . . Senate . . . . Republican . . Midterm . . House . . Senate
Presidents . . . . .Year . . . . seats . . . seats . . . . . Presidents . . . year . . . . seats . . . seats

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Carter . . . . . . . . 1978 . . . . -15 . . . . . -2 . . . . . . . . Reagan . . . . . .1982 . . . . .-26 . . . . . 0
Clinton. . . . . . . . 1994 . . . . -54 . . . . . -9 . . . . . . . . G.H.W.Bush . . .1990 . . . . . -8 . . . . . -1
Obama. . . . . . . . 2010 . . . . -63 . . . . . -6 . . . . . . . . G.W.Bush. . . . .2002 . . . . .+8. . . . . +1

(average). . . . . . . . . . . . . . -44 . . . . . -6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -9 . . . . . . 0

Would anybody like to revise his estimates on whether Republicans will lose their House and/or Senate majorities in the midterm elections this Tuesday?


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Old 11-03-2018, 01:27 AM
 
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It's said that when a President is newly elected, two years later his party loses when midterm elections come his party loses seats in the House and Senate. Based on this some people are predicting that in this Tuesday's 2018 midterms Republicans will lose enough house seats (more than -23) to fall to a minority there, and might barely hold onto the Senate.

But if you look at the six Presidents we've had most recently before Trump, a different story emerges.

The first midterm is usually when people have had two years to evaluate the actual performance of the new President, see what he actually did, and compare his results to what he promised.

And in that light, new Republican Presidents have done better than the expected average. And new Democrats have done FAR worse.

Democrat . . . . Midterm . . House . . Senate . . . . Republican . . Midterm . . House . . Senate
Presidents . . . .. Year . . . . seats . . . seats . . . . . Presidents . . . year . . . . seats . . . seats

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carter . . . . . . . . 1978 . . . . -15 . . . . . -2 . . . . . . . Reagan . . . . . .1982 . . -26 . . . . . 0
Clinton. . . . . . . . 1994 . . . . -54 . . . . . -9 . . . . . . . G.H.W.Bush . . .1990 . . .-8 . . . . . -1
Obama. . . . . . . . 2010 . . . . -63 . . . . . -6 . . . . . . . G.W.Bush. . . . .2002 . . .+8. . . . .+1

(average) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -44 . . . .-6. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -9 . . . 0

Would anybody like to revise his estimates on whether Republicans will lose their House and/or Senate majorities in the midterm elections this Tuesday?

Nope. It's hard to revise something that doesn't exist, and I have made no estimates. Both sides are pretty fired up, and at this point, nothing would surprise me.
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Old 11-03-2018, 01:34 AM
 
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Nope. It's hard to revise something that doesn't exist, and I have made no estimates. Both sides are pretty fired up, and at this point, nothing would surprise me.
The last few Democrat Presidents have fared VERY badly in how many campaign promises they kept (you know, the promises people voted them in for).

While President Trump, though not perfect, has kept far more of the promises he made during his campaign, than any President in most people's living memory.

While the poor record in recent Presidents holding House seats at their first midterm election is almost entirely the result of Democrat Presidents shoving the average WAY down, Republican Presidents have done far better, often as a result of their keeping far more promises than Democrats did, or ever could.

Anybody see any reason why this trend should not continue?
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Old 11-03-2018, 04:40 AM
 
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Nope. It's hard to revise something that doesn't exist, and I have made no estimates. Both sides are pretty fired up, and at this point, nothing would surprise me.
OMG...a sane comment from a Democrat. Will wonders never cease.

Were you successfully treated for TDS?
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Old 11-03-2018, 04:49 AM
 
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Reagan, Bush, TRUMP .... > BOOMING ECONOMIES
CLINTON NAFTA, IMPEACHMENT, OBAMA 1% GDP.... 1 IN 6 ON FOODSTAMPS, OUTSOURCING TO COMMUNIST CHINA ,

All my Democrat friends are temporarily voting REPUBLICAN, The democratic party has been takin over by a bunch of corrupt globalist organizations, They are all too honest to support such corruption.. Salute to them for their honesty..
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Old 11-03-2018, 04:55 AM
 
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Yes,It seems to me that if a candidate wins the Presidency based on his campaign promises, then actually fulfills many of them in the first 2 years of his occupancy, that is an indication that American voters will want more of the same. Yep.
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:40 AM
 
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OMG...a sane comment from a Democrat. Will wonders never cease.

Were you successfully treated for TDS?
Always so rude.

An honest answer with no personal attacks and this is what you do.

For those inclined to blame the media for hostility -- take note....it does seem much of the nastiness is just there.

Sad.

It is hard to tell what is going to happen.
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:47 AM
 
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I also think the trend will continue. I see the midterms as Republicans lose a handful of seats in the House but gain 2-3 senate seats. Most honest people will call it a wash and not a bad showing for midterns. Most news media will say Republicans are done for, if they lose any seats at all in the House which is an almost impossible task.
The thing to remember is if and when Republicans lose the majority in the House, Democrats still can not successfully pass new left leaning laws as it takes both Houses to do that and they won't have a veto proof majority. Also, the House has nothing to do with appointing Supreme Court Justices, so it provides no firewall for Trump to successfully place more Justices of his choice on the Court when that time comes.
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:50 AM
 
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Always so rude.

An honest answer with no personal attacks and this is what you do.

For those inclined to blame the media for hostility -- take note....it does seem much of the nastiness is just there.

Sad.

It is hard to tell what is going to happen.
LOL....and the Demonic's have been so nice haven't they. I'll take jobs over the Leftist Brown Shirt Democrat Mobs.

I've said for over a year this is a battle of The GOP turn out advantages in the mid terms versus the tendency for the Presidents' party to lose in the mid terms. The Dims might win the House but I think the results will be that the polls will once again have vastly overrated Dim support.
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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Reagan, Bush, TRUMP .... > BOOMING ECONOMIES
CLINTON NAFTA, IMPEACHMENT, OBAMA 1% GDP.... 1 IN 6 ON FOODSTAMPS, OUTSOURCING TO COMMUNIST CHINA ,

All my Democrat friends are temporarily voting REPUBLICAN, The democratic party has been takin over by a bunch of corrupt globalist organizations, They are all too honest to support such corruption.. Salute to them for their honesty..
Don't be so sure it's temporary. More and more Americans are realizing that Democrats do nothing but lie during campaigns, promising great benefits and gifts that they know they can't deliver.

Even Republicans do not deliver 100% on their campaign promises, but their percentage of promises kept is consistently higher than Democrats'... and the American people remember, two years later, when the midterms come around.

One of the best things President Trump has done as President, is point out that not only do Democrats consistently and deliberately lie and distort, but so do their sycophantic media, constantly praising Democrats while sweeping their failures under the rug. While doing the opposite with Republicans, bashing them and publicizing their slightest gaffes and often-made-up "scandals" that are (much later) revealed as minor or nonexistent.

Trump has pointed out the facts about the far-left media in repeated and hard-hitting style, with the direct result that today they have the smallest percentage of readership and viewership among Americans since colonial days. The Democrats, unable to cover their failures with media praise any longer, are losing voters right and left, as the poster quoted above describes. So many former Democrat voters are comparing what the media and their pet politicians are saying, with the actual truth they are delivering, often for the first time... and are dropping the Democrats like newly-discovered nests of cockroaches.

A sympathetic press is vital to parties with dismal records of failure as long and consistent as the Democrats'. And the Democrats have lost theirs - possibly President Trump single most important achievement of his Presidency, whose repercussions are only beginning to be felt by the enraged Dems as midterm elections approach.

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