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Old 11-06-2018, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm not sure the families who lost loved ones in the Pittsburgh shooting would agree with you.
Whether they do or not, it doesn't change the facts. Everyone (black, white, hispanic, asian, jew) murdered and their families deserve sympathy and prosecution and punishment for the persons responsible.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Whether they do or not, it doesn't change the facts. Everyone (black, white, hispanic, asian, jew) murdered and their families deserve sympathy and prosecution and punishment for the persons responsible.
You won't find me disputing this here or anywhere else. It's not an "either/or" thing. Is it?
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The only people who believe whites are persecuted in this country are the same ones who blame everyone else for their problems.

IE: cowards.


"Persecuted" ........?

Not yet, at least not on a wide scale.


"Demonized".......?

Absolutely, the Left has been blaming whites and white men in particular for all the evil in the world for quite a while now.

It's not a huge stretch of the imagination to deduct that actual persecution isn't far behind.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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"Persecuted" ........?

Not yet, at least not on a wide scale.


"Demonized".......?

Absolutely, the Left has been blaming whites and white men in particular for all the evil in the world for quite a while now.

It's not a huge stretch of the imagination to deduct that actual persecution isn't far behind.
The OP isn't following along with the 4 step plan.

Dehumanize first (which would be demonize). Through prejudice (white privilege), Scapegoat (It's all the fault of white business owners), discriminate (denial of jobs simply because a person is not a minority).

Persecute next.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Seems much more like what today's left wing is doing. Watch the statements about white people, men in particular, from CNN, MSNBC, etc. Add the actions of Antifafa that emulate the Sturmabteilung (Brown Shirts) of the Nazi party, and the calls to violence from Democratic leaders.
^This. Hitler would also entice people to support him by offering free stuff and jobs, then later on when he was in full power, he began working on disarming the public. It's amazing, but the democrats today, attack the police with one hand, but then also want them to be the only ones with guns on the other.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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hitler was a leftist progressive....


and the American liberals are following his steps to the tee
I was a democrat, but when I seen Obama go on national television and keep screaming about gun control, it sent radars off for me. My grandfather was from Germany, and he always warned me that the second a leader wants to try and get the public to turn in their guns for safety reasons, then be wary because that leader is after complete power, not for the people.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Exactly. Anyone who can't see that is being deliberately obtuse.

Both Hitler and Margaret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) were racist eugenicists and believed in eugenics, i.e. culling what they believed to be the subpar. And given the fact that Blacks and Hispanics have higher abortion rates than Whites, that still holds true to this day.
Do you have any proof about your statement concerning Hispanics and abortion rates? I only ask because in my neck of the woods, Hispanics tend to be very religious, especially to the Catholic and Christian religions and are against abortion. It's why we still see the Hispanic community, for the most part, have large families and tend to have homes with both parents still together and raising the children.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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There were four very specific steps utilized by Hitler and the Nazi government to dehumanize the Jewish population of Europe...

The Holocaust didn’t occur suddenly or spontaneously—it required a conscious process. If we study the process, we might prevent future genocides.

1. Prejudice

2. Scapegoating

3. Discrimination

4. Persecution

Hitler

How easy it is the slide into Fascism when a party comes into power that has such disdain for democracy and human rights. People died on foreign shores to prevent the USA from becoming what and who the right wing is supporting nowadays. The American flag stands for nothing and is just a red white and blue rag once democracy is gone.
It's strange. You can see these behaviors in your "enemies, but you're can't see it on your own side. Moderate conservative voices are being silenced. If you walk around with a MAGA hat on, there's a good chance you'll be physically assaulted. Sure you've got great points there, but you're completely blind to the sins of the Far Left apparently.

All four items are being actively and passionately embraced by the likes of Antifa and even Maxine Waters calling for mobs to harass the "evil Republicans". The Left is officially sanctioning hatred and violence coming straight from it's political elites on down. The Left is actively suppressing the free speech of those on the Right on college campuses, on the streets and everywhere else they can manage it. The Right isn't quite there yet. I haven't seen MAGA hat wearing mobs smashing and lighting a college campus on fire because a Progressive was being allowed to speak there.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:48 AM
 
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There were four very specific steps utilized by Hitler and the Nazi government to dehumanize the Jewish population of Europe...


How easy it is the slide into Fascism when a party comes into power that has such disdain for democracy and human rights. People died on foreign shores to prevent the USA from becoming what and who the right wing is supporting nowadays. The American flag stands for nothing and is just a red white and blue rag once democracy is gone.
Thanks for the reminder, but you are dreaming if you think that the denizens of this forum give a hoot.

With the passing of the Greatest Generation, the memories of the horror of WWII will fade into the past, just a dusty footnote in some boring history book.

Those that lived through that war understood at a very deep level the risk of creeping fascism, because it very nearly destroyed the free world. This is why in the decades after WWII, for the most part our political discourse was centered and tolerant. There was a general understanding about the risks of going down that path.

Today they are mostly dead and gone. In order to achieve their dream of one-party rule, this latest crop of neo-fascists will happily spit on the graves of the men and women that died in WWII. From what I can see we are too stupid, deluded and distracted to avoid repeating history. The election of Trump made that crystal clear.

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Old 11-06-2018, 04:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Do you have any proof about your statement concerning Hispanics and abortion rates? I only ask because in my neck of the woods, Hispanics tend to be very religious, especially to the Catholic and Christian religions and are against abortion. It's why we still see the Hispanic community, for the most part, have large families and tend to have homes with both parents still together and raising the children.
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"An African-American woman is almost five times likelier to have an abortion than a white woman, and a Latina more than twice as likely, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...al-gap/380251/

More recent info indicates Blacks and Hispanics have about a 3 times and 2 times higher abortion rate than Whites, respectively:

https://www.guttmacher.org/infograph...-and-ethnicity

I'm not buying the "lack of access to birth control" excuse. If you have access to an abortion clinic, you have access to public health department family planning clinics, which are FAR more numerous than abortion clinics.
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