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Old 11-08-2018, 09:06 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Allegedly, this guy was a converted Muslim.
So sayeth an image you found on 4chan /pol, the bastion of credible non-white-supremacist news. /S
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Allegedly, this guy was a converted Muslim.
And that's relevant because...

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Old 11-08-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Well this brings it all home...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKUqBazmAdA
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I’m not blaming guns whatsoever, and do me a favor and stop being so f’n presumptuous.



Was the shooter an immigrant? No?

Stop repeating at-right taking points.
Thanks for skipping over most of what I wrote. He fought foreign wars. Both sides hate each other. Does that sink in now? This guy was in the service and decided to shoot up a redneck bar. Does that help? He was trained to kill foreigners but expected to live next to them here. You seriously can't connect the dots with all of the mass shootings by ex military lately? We hate each other.

I wasn't in the military nor am I white. I see it. There is serious hate now. It has been for 20 years.

What's your solution to this? I've asked this multiple times to radical libs yet no answer besides ban ban ban. If you are a moderate maybe you can enlighten us.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:17 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Thanks for skipping over most of what I wrote. He fought foreign wars. Both sides hate each other. Does that sink in now? This guy was in the service and decided to shoot up a redneck bar. Does that help? He was trained to kill foreigners but expected to live next to them here. You seriously can't connect the dots with all of the mass shootings by ex military lately? We hate each other.

I wasn't in the military nor am I white. I see it. There is serious hate now. It has been for 20 years.
Again, that’s nothing more than unfounded speculation, and if I didn’t know any better, I’d call it projection.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Good question and good critical thinking. As far as I know, rarely or never. Seems like these types of events started becoming a normal or regular thing sometime within the past decade or so, and especially since Newtown, CT in 2012. This all despite the fact that violent crime in general fell significantly during the 1990's and has stayed much lower than it ever was in the 1970's or 80's. So something else is going on IMO.
The first that I remember was New Orleans in 73 and seeing a TV movie of the University of Texas Tower a decade before that. Then the San Yisidro McDonald's a decade later.

What are the suspects?

. The general up gunning of society. Moving from revolvers to pistols. along with using rifles and carbines that an average shooter can get on target faster and easier than past models.

The prescription pharmaceuticals.

The more realistic combat simulators turned into games. There not being more uses of violence the mMore realistic blood splatter in media portrayals of violence.

Lower levels of belief in a God proclaiming that thou shall not murder

The US political climate becoming more confrontational nearing the 1860 level.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:23 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Again, that’s nothing more than unfounded speculation, and if I didn’t know any better, I’d call it projection.
You can call it all you want. What's your solution. I'll ask for the final time I have better things to do than deal with circular logic.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:25 PM
 
Location: AZ
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You can call it all you want. What's your solution. I'll ask for the final time I have better things to do than deal with circular logic.
Do explain how it’s circular logic.

What we need is better treatment and access to treatment for mental illness in this country....
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Do explain how it’s circular logic.

What we need is better treatment and access to treatment for mental illnesses in this country....
Hate is not always a mental illness, it's a state of mind. You know that right? The same has being happy. Were all the people that committed suicide in war mentally ill? Their Countries made them out as patriotic. If you were Japanese and were surrounded it was honorable to kill yourself vs being taken prisoner. In Iraq you were a hero if you wore a bomber vest and killed the enemy. We do the same, train people to kill then freak out when it actually happens.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:32 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Hate is not always a mental illness, it's a state of mind. You know that right? The same has being happy. Were all the people that committed suicide in war mentally ill? Their Countries made them out as patriotic. If you were Japanese and were surrounded it was honorable to kill yourself vs being taken prisoner. In Iraq you were a hero if you wore a bomber vest and killed the enemy. We do the same, train people to kill then freak out when it actually happens.
Hate to the extent that you’re willing to mass-murder a dozen fellow citizens is not a mindset undertaken by the mentally stable. Why that principle needs explaining is beyond me....

This has nothing to do with nationality or immigrants.
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