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Old 11-08-2018, 07:49 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Another good guy with a gun...until he’s not.

All you gunnuters were peeved at Adam Lanzas mother because of what she did or did not do, but now you think it would have been wrong for her to get the cops to take the guns.

You’re thought process is non existent you know that, right?
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: MS
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Too bad the family of the Thousand Oaks Shooter did not pursue a court order. Had hey done so, he and 12 others would be alive today.
Actually a few months ago that shooter had interaction with the police and one of their experts determined that he wasn't a threat to himself or others. Were they correct in their decision? Obviously not. So there is a chance that is just as good a chance that the decision to remove someone's guns is incorrect as well.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:30 PM
 
Location: MS
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Another good guy with a gun...until he’s not.

All you gunnuters were peeved at Adam Lanzas mother because of what she did or did not do, but now you think it would have been wrong for her to get the cops to take the guns.

You’re thought process is non existent you know that, right?
Yes. That's the cost of living in such a free country.

Lanza had to kill his own mother to get the keys to the gun safe. He was known to be dangerous and obsessed with school shootings. The guns should have stayed and he should have been removed from the home.

Curious about your last sentence. If our thought process is non existent then how would we know it?
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:54 PM
 
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So... it was determined he wasn’t stable enough to own guns... then he shoots at an officer when he gets mad. Wouldn’t that be proving the determination correct?

ETA: and on today of all days, where we had someone with severe mental health issues just shoot up a club full of people... do you really want to try to make this case?
where was it "determined" and by whom?
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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So... it was determined he wasn’t stable enough to own guns... then he shoots at an officer when he gets mad. Wouldn’t that be proving the determination correct?

ETA: and on today of all days, where we had someone with severe mental health issues just shoot up a club full of people... do you really want to try to make this case?
Determined by who? Some anonymous "tip"? Some Americans, clearly not liberals, still believe in due process and following the Constitution.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The State is perfectly capable of determining who should have guns and who should not.

Ask those 500K dead Iraqi kids if they agree.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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So... it was determined he wasn’t stable enough to own guns... then he shoots at an officer when he gets mad. Wouldn’t that be proving the determination correct?

ETA: and on today of all days, where we had someone with severe mental health issues just shoot up a club full of people... do you really want to try to make this case?



While YOU'RE making the case that a law which strips a citizen of his rights without due process after an unsubstantiated phone call, shouldn't be questioned simply because other nuts have committed crimes with firearms?

Give me a break, lady.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:20 AM
 
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While YOU'RE making the case that a law which strips a citizen of his rights without due process after an unsubstantiated phone call, shouldn't be questioned simply because other nuts have committed crimes with firearms?

Give me a break, lady.
Wrong ,there was due "process" you just fail to agree to it .
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:37 AM
 
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Hollywood made a movie some years back, starring Tom Cruise I think, about a police "Department of Pre-crime" that could arrest people because some weird psychics predicted that, though the people had committed no crime, they soon would.

Part of the point of the movie was that the weird psychics were sometimes wrong, but the police went in SWAT-style and arrested the suspects anyway, and sometimes killed them.

That movie was fictional.

Until now.
Minority Report, and it did star Tom Cruise.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:57 AM
 
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Is possession of a "something" a crime? It isn't. It's only after you use that something to harm someone else that there is a crime, and the crime is the harm done, not the something used in the act.
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