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View Poll Results: should automotive racing be banned?
yes. 13 17.11%
no, continue the depredation of nature. 53 69.74%
other (please explain below) 10 13.16%
Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-10-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I live in the Seattle area, which is extremely conscious of environmentalism. Every week it seems that there is a new story about the effects of global warming. Last week it was the disappearance of sea urchins. The week before, methane gas bubbling up in the arctic. This week, there is a front page story in the Seattle Times about "Orcas in Peril."

Automotive racing of all types, whether it is car, truck, or motorcycle, serves NO earthly purpose. Someone estimated that ONE driver, a guy named Jeff Gordon, has driven almost 300,000 miles in races alone. That is one guy, and does not even count his practice driving, or his driving getting to and from the track.


No earthly purpose to it, and all the while generating carbon emissions. Wouldn't it be a great idea to ban it? I would not even allow emissions-free cars such as the Tesla to race, since there is no way to tell whether the electricity may have come from coal. I'm completely serious here--I'd ban it all.

We should ban breathing.


That fire in Cali that just started, has released more emissions in the air already than every car ever built
We should ban forest fires.
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Old 11-10-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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As fast as electric cars are these days they could be raced with no impact to the environment.
https://www.politico.com/agenda/stor...ronment-000660

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...widespread adoption of electric vehicles nationwide will likely increase air pollution compared with new internal combustion vehicles. You read that right: more electric cars and trucks will mean more pollution.

That might sound counterintuitive: After all, won’t replacing a 30-year old, smoke-belching Oldsmobile with a new electric vehicle reduce air pollution? Yes, of course. But that’s also where many electric vehicle proponents’ arguments run off the road: they fail to consider just how clean and efficient new internal combustion vehicles are. The appropriate comparison for evaluating the benefits of all those electric vehicle subsidies and mandates isn’t the difference between an electric vehicle and an old gas-guzzler; it’s the difference between an electric car and a new gas car. And new internal combustion engines are really clean. Today’s vehicles emit only about 1% of the pollution than they did in the 1960s, and new innovations continue to improve those engines’ efficiency and cleanliness.

...Cars are charged from the nation’s electrical grid, which means that they’re only as “clean” as America’s mix of power sources.

...As for greenhouse-gas emissions, my analysis shows that electric vehicles will reduce them compared to new internal combustion vehicles. But based on the EIA’s projection of the number of new electric vehicles, the net reduction in CO2 emissions between 2018 and 2050 would be only about one-half of one percent of total forecast U.S. energy-related carbon emissions. Such a small change will have no impact whatsoever on climate, and thus have no economic benefit.

...Electric vehicle subsidies and mandates share an unfortunate, and all too common trait with other government policies: They’re based on “conventional wisdom” that turns out to be wrong.
So...no.
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Old 11-10-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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As fast as electric cars are these days they could be raced with no impact to the environment.
Umm, how do the batteries get charged?
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Old 11-10-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
I live in the Seattle area, which is extremely conscious of environmentalism. Every week it seems that there is a new story about the effects of global warming. Last week it was the disappearance of sea urchins. The week before, methane gas bubbling up in the arctic. This week, there is a front page story in the Seattle Times about "Orcas in Peril."

Automotive racing of all types, whether it is car, truck, or motorcycle, serves NO earthly purpose. Someone estimated that ONE driver, a guy named Jeff Gordon, has driven almost 300,000 miles in races alone. That is one guy, and does not even count his practice driving, or his driving getting to and from the track.


No earthly purpose to it, and all the while generating carbon emissions. Wouldn't it be a great idea to ban it? I would not even allow emissions-free cars such as the Tesla to race, since there is no way to tell whether the electricity may have come from coal. I'm completely serious here--I'd ban it all.
How about we ban everything you like and transfer your wealth to Africa to help them set up solar panels?
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Old 11-10-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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I am fine with that afterall, car racing is the most boring event to watch.
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Old 11-10-2018, 01:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
I live in the Seattle area, which is extremely conscious of environmentalism. Every week it seems that there is a new story about the effects of global warming. Last week it was the disappearance of sea urchins. The week before, methane gas bubbling up in the arctic. This week, there is a front page story in the Seattle Times about "Orcas in Peril."

Automotive racing of all types, whether it is car, truck, or motorcycle, serves NO earthly purpose. Someone estimated that ONE driver, a guy named Jeff Gordon, has driven almost 300,000 miles in races alone. That is one guy, and does not even count his practice driving, or his driving getting to and from the track.


No earthly purpose to it, and all the while generating carbon emissions. Wouldn't it be a great idea to ban it? I would not even allow emissions-free cars such as the Tesla to race, since there is no way to tell whether the electricity may have come from coal. I'm completely serious here--I'd ban it all.
Nice survey you have Travis. Not at all leading or accusatory tone in the ‘no’ answer is there. Lol.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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What a daft idea.

If you really wanted to address any root causes of AGW you'd have to start with the global overpopulation crisis..

A sustainable human population is maybe as small as 100M.

Work towards that instead...instead of banning things. This is a world of plenty - but that doesn't mean you can have endless consumption. With a right-sized human population, there would be virtually no restrictions on human activities.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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If you aren't trading out the batteries every 10 minutes, it would be a very very very short race. (or a very slow one)
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Hey, here's a solution: use very, very long electric cords connected to sockets in the center of the track.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
I live in the Seattle area, which is extremely conscious of environmentalism. Every week it seems that there is a new story about the effects of global warming. Last week it was the disappearance of sea urchins. The week before, methane gas bubbling up in the arctic. This week, there is a front page story in the Seattle Times about "Orcas in Peril."

Automotive racing of all types, whether it is car, truck, or motorcycle, serves NO earthly purpose. Someone estimated that ONE driver, a guy named Jeff Gordon, has driven almost 300,000 miles in races alone. That is one guy, and does not even count his practice driving, or his driving getting to and from the track.


No earthly purpose to it, and all the while generating carbon emissions. Wouldn't it be a great idea to ban it? I would not even allow emissions-free cars such as the Tesla to race, since there is no way to tell whether the electricity may have come from coal. I'm completely serious here--I'd ban it all.
Oh look, another liberal who wants to ban everything that he doesn't like or have an interest in.

Thankfully, you'll never get your way.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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Why don’t we ban you fron posting here?
It's an obvious troll account with ridiculous anti gun, anti car, anti middle America, posts.
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