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Old 11-13-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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Yes, he most certainly could have, but there seemed to be confusion over when the event took place and where Trump was at the time. He did make an address at Suresnes American Cemetery outside Paris on Sunday, Nov 11th, while members of his Cabinet attended the commemoration at Arlington. His spoiled brat behavior in France duly noted, Trump did not ignore American war dead on Veterans Day, and he managed to behave appropriately on Twitter for at least a few hours before going back to venting his spleen about the media, California, and Democrats.
I heard on the news that he instead stayed for 4 hours at the Ambassador's house and didn't go anywhere near a cemetery.

 
Old 11-13-2018, 04:50 PM
 
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I heard on the news that he instead stayed for 4 hours at the Ambassador's house and didn't go anywhere near a cemetery.
He skipped a commemoration at Aisne-Marne American Cemetery on Saturday, Nov. 10th. On Veterans Day, Sunday, Nov. 11th, he gave an address at Suresnes American Cemetery before returning to the United States.
 
Old 11-13-2018, 04:53 PM
 
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"It's incredible that a president would travel to France for this significant anniversary - and then remain in his hotel room watching TV rather than pay in person his respects to the Americans who gave their lives in France for the victory gained 100 years ago tomorrow," David Frum, who served as a speechwriter to former president George W. Bush, wrote in a series of tweets.

https://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Ma...e-13380402.php
He's now blaming it on the Secret Service.
 
Old 11-13-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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He's now blaming it on the Secret Service.
He heard it on FOX News. That was the spin started on Sunday.

I called it -- He was tone deaf about the inappropriateness of not going. When he got home and is sitting around watching TV and checks out social media, he sees what is going on. He then heads ot Fox to see how they spin it.

And then he tweets.

If he really cared he would have tweet on Saturday about how disappointed he was to miss the opportunity to honor those American soldiers who died in WWI -- He said nothing. He tweeted Saturday, Sunday, Monday -- but not until today did he say something.

Don't tell me he was too busy -- that's a load.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 06:33 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Donald only attends a rally or gathering where he can get votes, and not one of the deceased veterans at Arlington cemetery has been voting.
Not voting Republican anyway.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 07:37 AM
 
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As to his schedule not permitting Trump to attend the ceremony at Arlington, you all are aware that the WH makes his schedule, right?

He could have just as easily given his talk at the Suresnes American Cemetery a day or so ahead of time.
The president always has the final say, unless there is clear and present danger. I call BS.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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The president always has the final say, unless there is clear and present danger. I call BS.

For Trump, rain is a clear a present danger. I understand that our American troops retreated at times during WWI due to rain.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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The president always has the final say, unless there is clear and present danger. I call BS.
How many past presidents had ignored the advice from SS, etc., and did what they wanted simply because they had "the final say"? Since you're all hot and bothered that Trump didn't use his "final say" then you must have many instances of past presidents doing exactly that.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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How many past presidents had ignored the advice from SS, etc., and did what they wanted simply because they had "the final say"? Since you're all hot and bothered that Trump didn't use his "final say" then you must have many instances of past presidents doing exactly that.
We don't know for sure.

If the President had been truly heart broken and felt strongly about going, he should have and would have expressed his regret for not being able to go much sooner.

Once again Trump fans are missing the most important thing about all of this.

Trump doesn't seem sad at all. Doesn't seem to care at all.

He gives his opinion on TV shows for goodness sake and has yet to express any real regret, sadness about having to miss the event.

That speaks volumes.

He can't even make up that he has no compassion, empathy and he really doesn't care.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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Trump is blaming everyone, including White House officials. One account:
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A senior White House official cited by The Washington Post late Tuesday said Deputy White House Chief of Staff Zachary Fuentes had informed Trump on Sunday morning that the Secret Service had expressed concern about flying Marine One through rain and fog to get to the Aisne-Marne U.S. cemetery about 50 miles away. Traveling in a motorcade was also reportedly advised against. Based on that information, Trump reportedly decided to abandon the trip, with the White House claiming bad weather had kept him grounded. The move—and the White House’s explanation for it—sparked scathing mockery on social media and reprimands for what many saw as disrespect to veterans on the 100th anniversary of the end of World War I. By Tuesday, Trump was still fuming about the incident and had complained to aides that he looked “terrible,” the Post reports. He also reportedly blamed his chief of staff’s office, particularly Fuentes, for not warning him that canceling the visit would prompt widespread criticism.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...fallout-report

This account suggests that Trump may have not cancelled had he realized there would be a backlash. Interesting that his instincts about what appeals to his base (the lock-her-up-stuff) fail when dealing with what deserves respect. He does better with denigration.

The first WH account mentioned the bad weather and that a motorcade would have to be "hastily" arranged, suggesting that poor backup planning may have been a factor. 50 miles is on the long side for a motorcade although other leaders that day were traveling about the same distance to various national cemeteries. Why Sarah Sanders then decided to claim it would take 2 1/2 hours each way to travel that distance sure isn't clear. I highly doubt that other leaders on the same overall schedule disappeared for 5 hours that afternoon.

Again, Trump would have already been in a motorcade (for the return trip from Elysee Palace to the Ambassador's residence).

More, it's hard not to wonder about Trump's reaction when he found out that the anticipated parade turned out to be a 10-minute ceremony at the Arc de Triomphe. Overall, it appears to have been a very expensive trip for not much accomplished - except pics of Donald scowling. That, and ridicule.

This turned out to be Donald and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Outing.
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