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I've voted Libertarian, Ralph Nader, for Ross Perot. A third party candidate would be treated even worse than Trump, who is, if we're being honest, the closest thing to a third party POTUS we've ever had. An outsider hated by the dems and disliked by the GOP bosses and despised by the establishment deep state.
I've voted Libertarian, Ralph Nader, for Ross Perot. A third party candidate would be treated even worse than Trump, who is, if we're being honest, the closest thing to a third party POTUS we've ever had. An outsider hated by the dems and disliked by the GOP bosses and despised by the establishment deep state.
I agree with your assessment of Trump. He's an outsider, and they hate outsiders. That's why I love him. I hate the deep state, and entrenched politicians on both sides. Reagan was my favorite President until Trump came along. I'll withhold final judgement on Trump after he's no longer in office, but so far, I think he's doing great. He could wind up surpassing Reagan.
I loved Ross Perot and his charts and graphs. I voted for him too. He made complex things easy to understand, and his logic was spot on. He made a Libertarian out of me. Every Libertarian who came after him sounded a bit wacky to me though.
I think Libertarians are naive when it comes to foreign affairs, and isolationism. I can't agree with them on that, but I'm okay with the rest of their platform.
I'm for small government. MUCH smaller than Republicans want. I'd gash government workers and the budget by so much, less than 1/2 of it would remain by the time I was done. I'd go back to what the founding fathers envisioned, so I guess I'm part Tea Party too.
I cannot think of any potential 3rd party candidate who could win. If Trump left the Republican party after his 1st term, tilted more towards the left, and called himself a Centrist Party candidate, he might win. The left is moving toward Socialism, and the Republicans are not moving in either direction, so there are Millions of moderates out there not being represented.
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As much as I dislike Trump, had he run as a 3rd party candidate in 2016 I would have voted for him. I'd like nothing more than to see the entrenched two party system get the smackdown it so richly deserves, I believe it's a bigger threat to this country's future than any outside force.
Trump is a third party candidate. He's not a genuine Republican at all. If he does not receive the Republican nomination next time, he will run au naturel.
With that in mind there is no such thing as a "good" president.
This.
Also, there aren't two parties with some collection of "not one of the two parties" that we call "third" parties. There is one party, with different social cliques. Even the Libertarian Party seeks to maintain the state, the system of organized theft known as taxation, the world's largest mercenary force, the welfare state, etc. They want less of it, but not none of it. All the parties want a big government that does many things and relies on oppressive systems of taking and force to operate.
There is only one party.
A true opposition to that one party won't be electoral, it will be revolution and anarchy.
As much as I dislike Trump, had he run as a 3rd party candidate in 2016 I would have voted for him. I'd like nothing more than to see the entrenched two party system get the smackdown it so richly deserves, I believe it's a bigger threat to this country's future than any outside force.
TOTALLY agree with you, but I can't see it happening anytime soon. Trump is the only person who might be able to pull it off if he ran the next time as a Centrist or Moderate Party candidate. I think it takes years to get a new party onto the ballot in most states though, so he'd have to call himself a Libertarian to make it happen 2 years from now. Or, he could be a write-in with no party affiliation.
As much as I dislike Trump, had he run as a 3rd party candidate in 2016 I would have voted for him. I'd like nothing more than to see the entrenched two party system get the smackdown it so richly deserves, I believe it's a bigger threat to this country's future than any outside force.
I agree. United we stand, divided we fall, I believe that's where we are headed.
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TOTALLY agree with you, but I can't see it happening anytime soon. Trump is the only person who might be able to pull it off if he ran the next time as a Centrist or Moderate Party candidate. I think it takes years to get a new party onto the ballot in most states though, so he'd have to call himself a Libertarian to make it happen 2 years from now. Or, he could be a write-in with no party affiliation.
I think that was the case in 2016, I doubt that would still apply in 2020 unless he somehow greatly increases his approval by that time. I think he'll probably have offended far too many people for that to happen.
The Bernie Bros sold themselves out to Hillary in 2016 due to their excessive Trump Derangement. And they got zilch in the end. Bernie abandoned them, and the current wackos in the DNC don't care about them at all.
They should have backed Jill Stein. If she had pulled just a few electoral votes, she'd might have changed the outcome of the election.
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