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the UN is welcome to ruin europe as they have been. stay out of america's business
No, they aren't.
America is much more the UN dream than Europe is. They don't need to be in "America's business" because America is already well further down the road in terms of UN aims than Europe is.
In other words, American nationalism's spiritual roots exist mostly in modern Europe at the moment: not America. Turning America into something evil is more a matter of a flick of a pen than demographic change at this point. Whereas Europe requires significant demographic change for that to happen. Its imperative that Europe is not destroyed through mass migration of foreign populations.
The UN is pushing a non-binding agreement that anyone on earth has the right to move anywhere for any reason. This is not just for refugees, but anyone anywhere for any reason. They are also to be given information about where they can move and the benefits of it.
If all cultures are equal, how come liberals don't crap their pants when companies like Google talk about creating a "better workplace culture?" Or when a football coach talks about doing the same?
I don't understand the question you are asking?
Are you saying that ALL of history, which involves exactly what the title is (people moving from here to there to everywhere) was "wrong"? Should the Scandanavians have stayed there instead of moving to Russia? Should the Portugese and Spanish never circled the world and settled where they wanted?
Sounds like you are somewhat off the wall. Female mutilation - yeah, that would be the same country that 10's of thousands of Americans work for (defense plants, let alone everything else they own)......they do it.
I understand that life is complex, but if you are going to discuss history you have to at least open your eyes rather than echoing some "company line" which sounds good to you at the moment.
We still have the old Indian caste system in-play, with the Brahmans at the helm dictating dysfunctional values and policies in trying to weaken and break the lower castes.
See the definition of "Dalit", which is the lowest caste. This is the slave caste, and it is how European (false) leaders are treating the people of the nations that they are pretending to lead in the interests of.
The word dalit is a vernacular form of the Sanskrit दलित (dalita). In Classical Sanskrit, this means "divided, split, broken, scattered"
These were the people with no identity or real culture. The Roman similarly designated people who could not trace their patrilineal origin to be of the lowest caste.
Remember that the UN's existence is not consented to by the people nor is it a democratic institution. This is undemocratic imperialism and oppression, pure and simple.
I certainly agree in principle - human's need to explore, and be in wonder and awe of all that the world has to offer, is far greater than national borders.
Are you saying that ALL of history, which involves exactly what the title is (people moving from here to there to everywhere) was "wrong"?
False equivalency. Nowhere in that history did people move freely. People moved tribally, and were repelled at the borders of other tribes. Tribes found geographic niches. They didn't mix haphazardly. This is why Europe is White and not Black, currently. This is why we can identify haplogroup concentrations regionally, still.
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Should the Scandanavians have stayed there instead of moving to Russia?
Stayed where? Scandinavians still isolate themselves with cold, and prior with war and other defensive action. Intermixing always occurs on border edges, but there has never been the freedom to move anywhere at will unless you militarily defeat a population.
If that's the history that you are referencing to justify your pseudo-historical frame, then you have to assent to everyone's will to militarily defend themselves against encroaching populations.
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Should the Portugese and Spanish never circled the world and settled where they wanted?
See above.
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Sounds like you are somewhat off the wall. Female mutilation - yeah, that would be the same country that 10's of thousands of Americans work for (defense plants, let alone everything else they own)......they do it.
It sound sounds like you are completely off of the wall. You think that our military protection of our oil source implies cultural allowance for genital mutilation? Your logic is infantile.
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I understand that life is complex, but if you are going to discuss history you have to at least open your eyes rather than echoing some "company line" which sounds good to you at the moment.
Right back at you. History reflects our position, whereas yours is a thought experiment and, ironic to your accusation, you are exhibiting NPC behavior in regard to that thought experiment.
I'll also pose this:
Certain groups are politically stronger than others. Allow them completely free movement, and watch each nation fall to them in total. Theirs is the interest that is primarily being served with any free movement doctrine.
Its imperative that Europe is not destroyed through mass migration of foreign populations.
Interesting since my entire DNA journey shows that this European IS the result of vast numbers of foreign populations settling Europe. My Mom's family is from Southern Italy but have some Scandanavian blood and even some British (could be one and the same). The Italians (Rome) and Vikings...and then the Barbarians (Germans, who were not really barbarians) created the British gene pool .
The wars and changing borders have mixed it up vastly more.
Was there a point that the world stopped and we all sat down on our musical chairs and then claimed "this is it"? My study of history doesn't show that. Look at the Soviet Union and all of Europe in and after WWII. Massive movements of people...isn't our POTUS's wife from a commie country that has nothing to do with either "Western Civilized Europe" or the USA? It was a country run under Marxist doctrine until relatively recently.
The whole idea of "foreign" is a misnomer. I'm rewatching the series "The history of mankind" and it shows the massive "foreign" movements for thousands of years.
It's very interesting that many people seem to think there is/was some sort of core "We are Here and Done with" population on the Earth. If such a thing exists, it is only the places like Japan and China and Indonesia with relatively little movement of the people.
Heck, I have Napoleons Blood - but King Davids also. A bit of King David was N. African. We could continue....but I'm afraid it won't do any good.
Nations do have certain rights to limit their total populations and such things...even their immigration numbers - however, most advanced countries NEED immigrants to do the dirty work. The Irish and the Slaves and Chinese did it in the USA - built many of the "miracles" that created the USA.
The better parts of the world seem to be entering a "post tribal" society. On the other hand, the places that maintain or strengthen their "tribes" aren't faring too well.
You can't tell me that the UN is not specifically talking about the caravans of migrants seeking asylum in the U.S. It's easy for them come up with this bleeding heart philosophical crap when they don't have to pay for the burden it puts on our resources.
Every country on Earth has the absolute right as a sovereign nation to limit and vet anyone that seeks to migrate to a different place. The UN acts like every migrant is Mary Poppins and fails to understand that it doesn't work that way. They are being ignorant to much of the reality of what they say.
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