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Old 11-14-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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That's what has been reported. All we can do is go by what has been reported, not make things up in your own mind and call them facts.
BY WHOM?

I haven't read all the stories about this. But the ones I've read have not said this. So please cite your source.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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I don't remember seeing that on the gun forums I frequent. Most of us are logical thinkers and don't need someone to speak up concerning another person's actions.


As far as getting a cohesive message out, gun owners are a very diverse group and stick their opinions. Even the 2nd Amendment supporters on this site are not in 100% agreement on everything. Since we don't get our talking points from our handlers, we usually just keep quiet until all the facts are in.
I have debated many many gun owners and 2nd Amendment advocates on here and in person. I have never encountered a more hive-minded bunch. The hardliners control the narrative of the gun community and the moderates do what they are told and stay in their place.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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I ask again - what is your source for saying this?
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BY WHOM?

I haven't read all the stories about this. But the ones I've read have not said this. So please cite your source.
Get new sources and you'll see. It was actually mentioned in the very first article posted in the other thread. From the very first article linked in the very first post in the other thread:


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A spokeswoman for the Cook County Sheriff's Office said Roberson had a valid FOID card, but did not have a concealed-carry license.
https://wgntv.com/2018/11/11/multipl...ng-police-say/




You need to do better.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Get new sources and you'll see. It was actually mentioned in the very first article posted in the other thread. From the very first article linked in the very first post in the other thread:



https://wgntv.com/2018/11/11/multipl...ng-police-say/




You need to do better.
Glad you brought that up. As I asked a question about that earlier, and received no answer.

Does an armed security guard need a CCL when on duty? And don't armed security officers usually carry openly? I really don't know.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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Glad you brought that up. As I asked a question about that earlier, and received no answer.

Does an armed security guard need a CCL when on duty? I really don't know.
He wasn't an armed security guard! He was a damned bouncer! In other words, Bar Security.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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He wasn't an armed security guard! He was a damned bouncer! In other words, Bar Security.
Please cite your source. The reports I've read have called him a security guard.

I know what a bouncer is. And I agree, it's not the same thing as a security guard. Are you saying that bars can't/don't hire security guards?
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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He was the black security guard who took down a thief then was shot and killed by police.

sounds to me the problem isnt guns its the idiot thugs with badges not taking the time to properly assess the situation, but rather just reacting and shooting first.
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: State of Denial
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Another fearful frightened idiot with a badge and a gun. Say "boo!" and they open fire. Where do they get these guys?
Trump rallies?
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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Please cite your source. The reports I've read have called him a security guard.
Yeah, they are throwing that around but he was not a real armed security guard. He was a bouncer. You know, the kind that where "Security" shirts in clubs??? Yeah one of those and he wasn't even wearing anything that stated as such. If he was a real security guard wouldn't you think he would have had a uniform with identity markings on it?


Midlothian police officer shoots bouncer at Robbins night club


MSM is conflating the two and calling him a security guard AND a bouncer in the same articles. He was a bouncer working door security that's all.
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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Please cite your source. The reports I've read have called him a security guard.

I know what a bouncer is. And I agree, it's not the same thing as a security guard. Are you saying that bars can't/don't hire security guards?
If they do they show up for their shifts in uniform with badges to identify who they are.
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