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Yeah, and AZ just voted in that pinhead Sinema. I was hoping like hell she'd lose as I'd like to move to AZ at some point in the future and her winning was disappointing.
I don't care for the republicans, but these days they are less crazy than the dems. Both parties are in the pockets of special interest anymore.
Yes I’ve been watching these other races out of state and guess the Dems came out in force this time after the Hillary debacle. But still, Sinema in Arizona?!
Yes I’ve been watching these other races out of state and guess the Dems came out in force this time after the Hillary debacle. But still, Sinema in Arizona?!
I thought that AZ was more conservative than that. Some of the crap that woman has said shocked me that the people in AZ voted her in.
Probably a large influx of Californians over the years is changing the demographics of that state.
I hope not, I want an escape route out away from the crazies here.
I thought that AZ was more conservative than that. Some of the crap that woman has said shocked me that the people in AZ voted her in.
Probably a large influx of Californians over the years is changing the demographics of that state.
I hope not, I want an escape route out away from the crazies here.
I know that’s what I was thinking. I read in other posts, some from a few years ago that are being revived that CA Dems or other left leaners are moving to other states such as Arizona , Montana, Wyoming, etc., for more affordable housing, and they are changing the voting demographics. Locals don’t want all that nuttiness coming into their states and turning their state into CA.
If that's the demographic case - there's only one way for the Republicans to increase their political fortunes, and that is to appeal to Latinos and Asian voters. Which isn't actually all that difficult, considering that not too long ago, believe it or not, you had Republican politicians who did appeal to these groups. Especially in Orange County.
Remember Bob Dornan? Yep, B-1 Bob. He could get some Mexican Americans (if not a majority) because of his Roman Catholicism and appeal to traditional family values. He got Vietnamese Americans to vote for him thanks to his hawkish anti-Communism.
And there are Asian Republican politicians in SoCal. Like Young Kim. Ling Ling Chang.
But the first thing ya gotta do is to drop the xenophobia. Yeah, it's hard, and it's been baked into California Republican playbook since Pete Wilson, but it can be done.
Reagan was able to appeal to Hispanics by establishing a common ground. He basically said, "Hispanics and Republicans have some things in common. Family values, personal responsiblity, hard work". I think this would have worked in Orange County. If Bob Dornan could make it work, so could Reagan.
Nowadays, fear of "the others" seems to be how some Republicans appeal to their voting base. One wonders why Orange County has been turning blue.
Reagan was able to appeal to Hispanics by establishing a common ground. He basically said, "Hispanics and Republicans have some things in common. Family values, personal responsiblity, hard work". I think this would have worked in Orange County. If Bob Dornan could make it work, so could Reagan.
Nowadays, fear of "the others" seems to be how some Republicans appeal to their voting base. One wonders why Orange County has been turning blue.
Reagan only got 35% and 37% of the Hispanic vote in 1980 and 1984, and about the same as any Republican gets. George W Bush over the top pandered to Hispanic voters and only got about 35% and 40%. Not a significant difference and not near a majority.
At the Tea Party forum in Huntington Beach last week, Eva Weisz, a Hungarian immigrant who came to the country 45 years ago, blamed the “radical” Democratic Party in Sacramento. “They want to take absolute control,” she said, wearing a red cap that had “Make California Great Again” stitched on it.
“We are fighting back,” Ms. Weisz said, insisting that Orange County’s resistance was not the last gasp of a withering political movement.
I have no doubts that a lot of people in OC would agree with Eva Weisz, however, based on my own experience (Parents live in Newport Beach, boyfriend lives in Irvine, another uncle lives in Irvine) The following post seems to be accurate for majority of the people I know.
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Meh. I had in-laws in Orange county. Both are deceased now, and both were some of those faithful Republicans. They were both well educated, and were typical, as far as I could see; their friends and neighbors were all much the same.
I doubt very seriously they will stay with a Democrat once Trump is gone from office. They were very much Reagan Republicans, and Trump is nothing at all like them. Once the Republicans nominate someone who is more like Reagan, I'm sure they'll follow that person.
add: I saw a gentleman wearing the "make California great again" hat on the street once. I assume he voted Trump.
Remember, ALL the rich right-wing talking heads from Limbaugh to Alex Jones to Coulter live in blue liberal area. Heck, Michael Savage lives right here in the San Francisco Bay Area.
They all could afford to live in a red state, why do they chose to live among liberals?? And paying through their noses in order to do it??
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Best part Fox News located in the heart of liberal midtown Manhattan. The irony.
Reagan was able to appeal to Hispanics by establishing a common ground. He basically said, "Hispanics and Republicans have some things in common. Family values, personal responsiblity, hard work". I think this would have worked in Orange County. If Bob Dornan could make it work, so could Reagan.
Nowadays, fear of "the others" seems to be how some Republicans appeal to their voting base. One wonders why Orange County has been turning blue.
This may be the case for some people but not all so don't stereotype. The only "others" I worry about are the ones who want big government and think that government has all the answers to provide for you. If you believe in conservative ideals, I could not care less what color or gender you are, or what god or rock crystal you pray to at night.
Meh. I had in-laws in Orange county. Both are deceased now, and both were some of those faithful Republicans. They were both well educated, and were typical, as far as I could see; their friends and neighbors were all much the same.
I doubt very seriously they will stay with a Democrat once Trump is gone from office. They were very much Reagan Republicans, and Trump is nothing at all like them. Once the Republicans nominate someone who is more like Reagan, I'm sure they'll follow that person.
Um, so your in laws and all their friend were and will continue to be racists that hate women and any minority.
Please note, I didn't add a "?" at the end of that statement.
Just rolling with the current *wisdom*.
Not sure how that is going to age over the next 10-20 years.
At the Tea Party forum in Huntington Beach last week, Eva Weisz, a Hungarian immigrant who came to the country 45 years ago, blamed the “radical” Democratic Party in Sacramento. “They want to take absolute control,” she said, wearing a red cap that had “Make California Great Again” stitched on it.
“We are fighting back,” Ms. Weisz said, insisting that Orange County’s resistance was not the last gasp of a withering political movement.
I have no doubts that a lot of people in OC would agree with Eva Weisz, however, based on my own experience (Parents live in Newport Beach, boyfriend lives in Irvine, another uncle lives in Irvine) The following post seems to be accurate for majority of the people I know.
add: I saw a gentleman wearing the "make California great again" hat on the street once. I assume he voted Trump.
Literally ANY part of the US that succumbs to mono-party rule is in for abuse and decline.
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