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Looks like NATO is going kaput after France and Germany agree to form a Euro-Army. Trump hates NATO, has no interest in wasting money defending Baltics, Ukraine, Georgia, etc...
NATO does nothing but expand closer to Russia, and wastes U.S. tax payer money.
Time for NATO to dissolve has come.
It's the EU. They have been agreeing to an EU army every few years since the 1990's.
Meanwhile, Germany has four functioning jet fighters and a shortage of rifles for soldiers in an understaffed army. France has the French Foreign Legion busy protecting the launch site in French Guyana and moving from French colony to former French colony keeping crappy undemocratic governments in power while German aid organizations deliver humanitarian aid there.
Be happy that you live in America. Advantageous geography, until recently mostly a lack of historical baggage based on race, religion, creed, an economy that used to be the wonder of the world, and rights enshrined in the constitution.
NATO is about the best money the US has ever spent.... thus Mrgomar, what on earth are you talking about?
The U.S. has the world's largest prison population; 25% of blacks are in prison;
12% of U.S. is black, but 75% of prisoners are black;
more $ spend on building prisons than schools;
50% of all AIDS cases are in prisons;
more homeless, drug users and addicts, more murders in U.S. than all other countries combined...
keep wasting money on NATO.
the really funny thing here is the notion that Europeans will actually form an army.
that takes funding they wont put into defense.
this simply leads to a further weakening of Europe. period.
Europe is the new old man of Europe. its dying.
Russia first ... No Country For Old Men Or New Mothers
"After the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991 those bonuses (plus the many rules governing who could live where) disappeared and so did a lot of the population. Since 1991 population declines of 20 percent or more were common in these areas and in some of the more inhospitable areas on the Pacific Coast, over 30 percent. As these areas emptied out a disproportionate number of older people were left behind in parts of the country that had less of everything, including new mothers and anyone able to help care for the elderly."
The U.S. has the world's largest prison population; 25% of blacks are in prison;
12% of U.S. is black, but 75% of prisoners are black;
more $ spend on building prisons than schools;
50% of all AIDS cases are in prisons;
more homeless, drug users and addicts, more murders in U.S. than all other countries combined...
keep wasting money on NATO.
Just to add to your stats ... United States Immigration Detention
"The United States operates the world’s largest immigration detention system. On any given day, the country has some 30,000 people in administrative immigration detention at an estimated cost of nearly $150 a day."
Looks like NATO is going kaput after France and Germany agree to form a Euro-Army. Trump hates NATO, has no interest in wasting money defending Baltics, Ukraine, Georgia, etc...
NATO does nothing but expand closer to Russia, and wastes U.S. tax payer money.
Time for NATO to dissolve has come.
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Originally Posted by BeerGeek40
Agree - in the post WW2 period it was needed, up to and through the collapse of the Soviet Union.
It's time to dismantle it.
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Originally Posted by ryanst530
Putin also agrees.
And so naturally, Putin's lap-dog in the White House agrees.
hope nato dissolves forever. we can defend ourselves, and take everyone out at the same time.
Sounds like a plan. Eliminate everyone else and then eliminate those enemies Trump has targeted. Like, liberals, democrats, brown, black, Asian, Muslim people and then we'll have a pure national nation built on pure national principals.
Sound about right?
Did it ever dawn on some of you TDS people that problems with NATO have existed long before Trump ever became president?
At least he is saying for the other countries to pay their agreed upon and fair share.
But if Germany/France and whomever else thinks it will be cheaper to fund their own military force, good luck with that.
The EU is already in financial trouble and may collapse.
Did it ever dawn on some of you TDS people that problems with NATO have existed long before Trump ever became president?
At least he is saying for the other countries to pay their agreed upon and fair share.
But if Germany/France and whomever else thinks it will be cheaper to fund their own military force, good luck with that.
The EU is already in financial trouble and may collapse.
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It's more than that and you know it. It's not just about fair share for Trump. It's about control. He rips up every multilateral agreement we have with every world organization and nation and then say's, "Let's negotiate".
That way everything becomes Trump.
NAFTA becomes Trump
Pacific Rim becomes Trump.
European union becomes Trump.
Canada becomes Trump.
Mexico Becomes Trump
Japan becomes Trump.
He's doing everything he can to make China Trump.
And on and on and on. The man is an infantile, insecure dictator.
He only respects Putin, his benefactor and the conduit for all the money he has accumulated since 1988.
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