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Old 11-15-2018, 10:09 AM
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We believe survivors. Believe women. Men need to shut up. Blah blah yada etc. That said, avanati gives lawyers a bad name, if thats even possible, he does

 
Old 11-15-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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Here's a fact of life you may want to keep in your back pocket for when the time renders it necessary--you as the subject, don't get to control the investigation. Period.

Don't tell me it's "preposterous", tell that to your attorney and let him (or her) tell it to the judge.
Doesn't a judge have to issue a warrant before you can seize and review someone's tax returns or yearbooks? When was the last time you applied for a warrant in a 2-3 year long domestic abuse case requesting to review tax returns and old yearbooks? Why don't you post a copy of the redacted warrant and describe the circumstances that led to its issuance, Mr. Investigator?
 
Old 11-15-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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Doesn't a judge have to issue a warrant before you can seize and review someone's tax returns or yearbooks? When was the last time you applied for a warrant in a 2-3 year long domestic abuse case requesting to review tax returns and old yearbooks? Why don't you post a copy of the redacted warrant and describe the circumstances that led to its issuance, Mr. Investigator?

You aren't cleared to ask that question, but yes, I'd request a warrant and a court ordered DNA sample.
 
Old 11-15-2018, 10:18 AM
 
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You aren't cleared to ask that question, but yes, I'd request a warrant and a court ordered DNA sample.
I didn't ask you about a DNA sample. You claimed a domestic abuse charge required 2-3 years of investigating, the interviewing of every ex-girlfriend, and the seizure of the high school yearbooks and all of the tax returns the suspect ever filed. I want you to substantiate your claim in that regard. Tell us about this 2-3 year long domestic abuse investigation where you got a warrant to seize the suspects high school yearbooks and tax returns. I'm very interested to see that warrant.
 
Old 11-15-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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I didn't ask you about a DNA sample. You claimed a domestic abuse charge required 2-3 years of investigating, the interviewing of every ex-girlfriend, and the seizure of the high school yearbooks and all of the tax returns the suspect ever filed. I want you to substantiate your claim in that regard. Tell us about this 2-3 year long domestic abuse investigation where you got a warrant to seize the suspects high school yearbooks and tax returns. I'm very interested to see that warrant.
I didn't claim anything--so there's nothing to substantiate. Second, I informed you of what I would do--you didn't have to ask it. And no, you aren't entitled to know who or what I've investigated, where it went and for what purposes. You aren't getting any answers about that regard.
 
Old 11-15-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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Here's a fact of life you may want to keep in your back pocket for when the time renders it necessary--you as the subject, don't get to control the investigation. Period. hell, if I were investigating Avanatti, I'd get a court order for a DNA sample so that I could match it against any open sexual abuse and physical abuse allegations by women in his neighborhood. I'd leave no stone unturned.



Don't like it? Oh well.


Don't tell me it's "preposterous", tell that to your attorney and let him (or her) tell it to the judge.
How would you get such a court order? You have to have some explanation to justify a court order. And Avenatti is a very competent attorney, who would raise very compelling reasons why such a court order shouldn't be ordered. The subject of an investigation does have some say in the investigation. And that's a fact of life that prosecutors deal with every day.
 
Old 11-15-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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How would you get such a court order? You have to have some explanation to justify a court order. And Avenatti is a very competent attorney, who would raise very compelling reasons why such a court order shouldn't be ordered. The subject of an investigation does have some say in the investigation. And that's a fact of life that prosecutors deal with every day.
The only say the subject has in an investigation is their side of the story.
 
Old 11-15-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Michael Avenatti arrested for domestic violence.


Just reported on Fox News. The creepy porn star lawyer arrested and they say the victim had swelling in the facial area. Its a felony charge so not some minor assault most likely.

He claimed to be working for women. I suppose he is when he isn't working them over.

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...AVu4YTxbMWR7nQ

https://www.know-legal.com/click/_yl...Dndi95jtoNCFU-

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/por...-messy-divorce



Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?


Oh wait I forgot, that only applies if you're a Republican.
 
Old 11-15-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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Michael Avenatti arrested for domestic violence.

Cue the angry activists and The Handmaid’s Tale women!

Oh nevermind... Avenatti is a Democrat so it is crickets
 
Old 11-15-2018, 11:08 AM
 
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The only say the subject has in an investigation is their side of the story.
When it comes to issuing court orders, the subject via his attorney can certainly defend himself against overreach by investigators. The subject has rights, and can defend those rights when they are threatened.
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