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Old 11-19-2018, 06:22 AM
 
Location: NC
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So is this setting a precedence allowing all press the blessing to conduct themselves like spoiled children. No civility, respect, procedure, Roberts rule of order?
I guess the only recourse may be to end briefings.
This has been the precedence for a LONG time.

The only recourse is to elect Presidents who can handle themselves in stressful situations. Really, a press-conference should be a low-level test. If they can't do that, how in the hell do you expect them to sit in front of other world leaders and get results. So far, it seems he can't handle either. Maybe he should crawl before he tries to run with scissors.
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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"sorry, had to quote you."

feel free anytime.

" love the unintended pun"

how do you know it was unintended? Hmm!
Oh
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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This has been the precedence for a LONG time.

The only recourse is to elect Presidents who can handle themselves in stressful situations. Really, a press-conference should be a low-level test. If they can't do that, how in the hell do you expect them to sit in front of other world leaders and get results. So far, it seems he can't handle either. Maybe he should crawl before he tries to run with scissors.
President Trump handles well. It's the childish tantrums of the disrespectful Jimbo who is wasting valuable time playing pranks and throwing tantrums vying for attention that he has no time for. Dimbo must expect an award for his antics from his colleagues.

What Jimbo creates isn't stress. He causes disruption of adult discussion between the President and reporters who are there to do their job respectfully, even if thoroughly.
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:51 AM
 
Location: NC
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President Trump handles well. It's the childish tantrums of the disrespectful Jimbo who is wasting valuable time playing pranks and throwing tantrums vying for attention that he has no time for. Dimbo must expect an award for his antics from his colleagues.

What Jimbo creates isn't stress. He causes disruption of adult discussion between the President and reporters who are there to do their job respectfully, even if thoroughly.
They were both childish in this case. Jim could have done better, but Trump is POTUS, and was hurling insults left and right. Had he not acted like a child himself you (and he) might have a point.

It's a damn shame that your (collective "you") standard for Presidential Behavior is not higher than what you say about Acosta. THAT is the tragedy here, as there will always be bad-acting journalists. You'd think a POTUS could contain himself for a presser that HE CALLED.
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:57 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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They were both childish in this case. Jim could have done better, but Trump is POTUS, and was hurling insults left and right. Had he not acted like a child himself you (and he) might have a point.

It's a damn shame that your (collective "you") standard for Presidential Behavior is not higher than what you say about Acosta. THAT is the tragedy here, as there will always be bad-acting journalists. You'd think a POTUS could contain himself for a presser that HE CALLED.
Acosta's WH credentials removal wasn't about Trump. It was about the physical force/intimidation he used to prevent a female WH intern from doing her job.

Or are you good with men overpowering women to get their way?
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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What part of there is NO LAW to be BROKEN do you NOT understand?
You're really not paying attention, are you?
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The White House is effectively Donald Trump's private residence, so he can uninvite anyone whenever he chooses to.
Actually, he can't. what the judge's ruling boiled down to is that the White House must treat everyone in the White House press corps equally and with due process. I said as much when they took Acosta's press pass away.

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President Trump handles well.
Uh-huh ... So "handles well" means telling a reporter she's asking a stupid question? Telling a reporter that she's a racist? Telling a reporter he's a bad person?

I'd hate to see what happens when Trump handles badly ...

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Acosta's WH credentials removal wasn't about Trump. It was about the physical force/intimidation he used to prevent a female WH intern from doing her job. :
Someone else who isn't paying attention. Go head and keep those fantasies dancing in your head in the face of facts that contradict them. Or better yet, go back and read Sarah Sanders' ever-evolving spin on the incident. And then read the judge's ruling.
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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So is this setting a precedence allowing all press the blessing to conduct themselves like spoiled children. No civility, respect, procedure, Roberts rule of order?
I guess the only recourse may be to end briefings.
I'm betting that Chris Wallace will be next on Trump's chopping block.
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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If he has a "right" to be there, so does 300+ million people.
Yes, they do have the same right, after gaining employment with a news service, and going through the extended security background check.
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:41 AM
 
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The issue is bigger than Acosta, bigger than press conferences. It involves the very structure of our government, and the checks and balances imposed by 3 CO-EQUAL branches of government.

The courts, however, on their own, and wholly without Constitutional mandate or authority, have taken it upon themselves to be a super-branch, over and above both the legislative, executive branches, as well as the work product (laws) passed by their combined efforts.

It MUST stop.

The administration MUST issue a Temporary Restraining Order quashing the Court's TRO. Simply, put, no court has subject-matter jurisdiction over this issue, nor the authority to trump the actions of another branch.

Quash the courts TRO and keep the troll out of the White House - forever.
Your proposal would gut the power of the judiciary and would be UnConstitutional. The checks and balances that are key to our system assure that at times each of the branches reigns supreme, and when one of the branches is in control, the other branches are not. The courts reign supreme when issuing orders and rulings on cases brought before them. The legislature reigns supreme when passing laws. The executive branch reigns supreme in matters the Constitution specifically enumerates. The administration doesn't have the power to issue a Temporary Restraining Order. That isn't one of the powers the Constitution enumerates.
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:45 AM
 
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I disagree. Acosta has a long history of being bias and hostile to the President and being rude to other journalists. There is plenty of material on that.


When Acosta refused to surrender his mic to the next journalist and wanted to make it about himself and debate the President on immigration and the definition of invasion, then that's when he crossed the line from being a reporter to an activist and Trump reacted the way he did.



Acosta has to decide, is he a journalist or an Activist? Activists will break rules, laws and make it about them and will reject anybody taking the mic away. They don't have questions from a neutral stand....they usually make a political point (theirs) and their questions are meant to debate back and forth.....that is not the job of a journalist.
Journalists will break rules and even laws, not to make it about themselves, but to get answers. Acosta was trying to get an answer from the President. The President wasn't giving an answer, he was giving blather, and Acosta was pushing for an answer.
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