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Old 11-19-2018, 06:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Do they have a photo? I thought they looked like a credit card. I also don't know the process for getting such a card.
They were supposed to have a photo, but a lot of people objected to that. Gotta keep the welfare fraud rolling, dontcha know. /puke
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:07 AM
 
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I'm talking about self-made people who might not have prestigious jobs but work hard and live below their means, people who listen to Dave Ramsey. I know a lot of people like this. They live in average houses and drive 12-year-old Toyota Carollas and are worth $2-$3 million none of which they inherited. They nearly all vote Republican.

It makes sense ... Who would want to live in a society where someone who lives below their means has to be forced to give their money to a welfare bum who finances a BMW X3 with their welfare checks?


I'm very close to being one of those people (maybe a million off but will be there by retirement in 10 years), but for some reason I don't buy into the Lee Atwater "welfare queen" narrative as a main motivation for my political stances.

Long story short, I don't buy into GOP BS that has made working class white people vote against their own interests based on racism, religion, and guns. A lot of people also buy into all this self help crap and identify with the "self made" Billionaires who actually benefit most from the corporate oligarchy we currently reside in.

Dave Ramsey is dispensing modified basic personal finance 101 with a healthy dose of religion and right wing rhetoric.

Any person with a little more transcendent brain can realize that something like universal healthcare takes the burden off small businesses and frees up people to move about the economy. But too many people have heads filled with Heritage foundation propaganda they can't see past the "takers" rhetoric that is spewed on AM radio 24/7.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I'm talking about self-made people who might not have prestigious jobs but work hard and live below their means, people who listen to Dave Ramsey. I know a lot of people like this. They live in average houses and drive 12-year-old Toyota Carollas and are worth $2-$3 million none of which they inherited. They nearly all vote Republican.

It makes sense ... Who would want to live in a society where someone who lives below their means has to be forced to give their money to a welfare bum who finances a BMW X3 with their welfare checks?
That book is on my shelf. I fit that profile in terms of my finances and penchant for frugality, but I don't vote Republican.
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Old 11-24-2018, 07:58 AM
 
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That book is on my shelf. I fit that profile in terms of my finances and penchant for frugality, but I don't vote Republican.
Not everyone understands politics and people don’t vote for their pockets.

Some people, democraps in particular, always try to enslave others.
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Old 11-24-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Not everyone understands politics and people don’t vote for their pockets.

Some people, democraps in particular, always try to enslave others.
Do people feel fulfilled spouting absurdist rhetoric like this?
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Old 11-25-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Not everyone understands politics and people don’t vote for their pockets.

Some people, democraps in particular, always try to enslave others.
No but enough do and typically it isn't based on politics but the economy. If they think the economy is good, they vote status-quo especially in the re-elections and if they think the economy is bad, they vote opposition. This explains a lot of presidential loses by incumbents: this happened to Ford, Carter and H.W. Bush (I argue it should have happened to W. Bush, but the Democrats nominated a flawed candidate.)
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Old 11-25-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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I'm talking about self-made people who might not have prestigious jobs but work hard and live below their means, people who listen to Dave Ramsey. I know a lot of people like this. They live in average houses and drive 12-year-old Toyota Carollas and are worth $2-$3 million none of which they inherited. They nearly all vote Republican.

It makes sense ... Who would want to live in a society where someone who lives below their means has to be forced to give their money to a welfare bum who finances a BMW X3 with their welfare checks?



There are a ton of millionaires and multi-millionaires in the county we live in. GOP doesn't stand a chance at the local level (they didn't even run for many positions), nor at the federal level, because the county skews so heavily democrat. Not sure where you get this baseless 'facts' without any cited sources from.
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Old 11-25-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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We understand that individual initiative, hard work among other things = achievement and lifetime economic security. Something a government or its “programs” can never, ever provide.
Bingo. Yahtzee. This. Winner.

The government can’t legislate you out of poverty of get you a bachelors degree, you have to do it yourself
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Old 11-25-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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Do people feel fulfilled spouting absurdist rhetoric like this?
Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Name one policy from the Democraps, besides free weed, that does t require violence or the threat of violence.

I will wait.
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Old 11-25-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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No but enough do and typically it isn't based on politics but the economy. If they think the economy is good, they vote status-quo especially in the re-elections and if they think the economy is bad, they vote opposition. This explains a lot of presidential loses by incumbents: this happened to Ford, Carter and H.W. Bush (I argue it should have happened to W. Bush, but the Democrats nominated a flawed candidate.)
Thanks for proving me right.
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