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Old 11-20-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by atltechdude View Post
No, the people are responsible, they will take the punishment for their actions, not Trump.

But it can be simultaneously true that they were incited to take those actions by the disgusting rhetoric flowing daily from the maniac's piehole.
they should use that as their defense, see how that works.
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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they should use that as their defense, see how that works.
It won't and I never said it would.

You can choose to do something for the wrong reasons and you are still responsible.

The fact remains that the actions might not have taken place absent this atmosphere of incitement the POTUS has put out there to white nationalists.
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Boston
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if you want to believe you're better than someone else, that's your right. Media has been force- feeding that premise to American consumers for 70 years.
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Boston
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It won't and I never said it would.

You can choose to do something for the wrong reasons and you are still responsible.

The fact remains that the actions might not have taken place absent this atmosphere of incitement the POTUS has put out there to white nationalists.
Your opinion
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:47 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Just thinking, hm, a lot of Trump supporters would theoretically be pro-law-enforcement but also pro-white-nationalism.


U.S. Law Enforcement Failed to See the Threat of White Nationalism.
Now They Don’t Know How to Stop It.
By Janet Reitman

White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since Sept. 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist...

A person’s willingness to brawl was a point of pride.



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/m...far-right.html
What a racist article.
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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The left's demands for white supremacists and Nazi bogeymen far outstrips the ACTUAL supply of same in this country.
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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It won't and I never said it would.

You can choose to do something for the wrong reasons and you are still responsible.

The fact remains that the actions might not have taken place absent this atmosphere of incitement the POTUS has put out there to white nationalists.

The cadre of actual "white supremacists" out there are far more emboldened, mobilized and energized by white liberals and the new era of grievance politics that has been ushered into this country than ANYTHING Trump has said or done.

Trump is a terrible white nationalist.... just ask the guy who killed the people in the synagogue who thought he was bought by the Jews. He's also really sucky at being a white nationalist by being the most pro-Israel president we've had in... maybe forever.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
Just thinking, hm, a lot of Trump supporters would theoretically be pro-law-enforcement but also pro-white-nationalism.


U.S. Law Enforcement Failed to See the Threat of White Nationalism.
Now They Don’t Know How to Stop It.
By Janet Reitman





https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/m...far-right.html





Welllll can we say that US Law enforcement or I should say the Democrat elected that ordered them did see the threat of race mixing and tried to stop it by enforcing segregation and keeping minorities down as they did in through the decades leading up to the 1960's ?



The most senseless violence is coming out of the inner cities where black on black crime is terrible.



In one extreme universe you could say that through the actions of Civil Rights the dogs were given too much chain and now they are getting into trouble and it is not that Law enforcement doesn't know how to stop the violence its is that they are not allowed to.



The Democrats are once again to blame for the lack of action to fight the senseless and wasteful black on black crime.



Trump supporters are pro law enforcement and they are also pro nationalism but not necessarily "white" nationalism.
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Old 11-20-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
Just thinking, hm, a lot of Trump supporters would theoretically be pro-law-enforcement but also pro-white-nationalism.


U.S. Law Enforcement Failed to See the Threat of White Nationalism.
Now They Don’t Know How to Stop It.
By Janet Reitman

White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since Sept. 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist...

A person’s willingness to brawl was a point of pride.



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/m...far-right.html
Sorry I couldnt access the NYT article. Could you link some proof that white supremacist have killed more people since 9/11 than any other extremist?
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Old 11-20-2018, 01:15 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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Perhaps they should begin with what caused it and what is still causing it.
The left pulling the race card non-stop for example. I am in a mixed race marriage. I have an adopted son who is black. That said I am sick to death of everything being sexist or racist unless you apologize for being white.
Genius! Pulling the race card (the 15th Amendment) as a defense is the sole reason that violent white-supremacists exist. They sure didn't CREATE the idea of "skin-race" and wallow in self-patting ideas about racial superiority and racial cunning.

Whoever the hell is asking you to apologize for being white is racist themselves. But I'm sure that is not what anyone (unless a 1%er) is asking you, even if you see it that way due to your pre-conceived notions and biases. When the emotions die down, you can ask people to clear their accusations up.
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