Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 11-21-2018, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
11,122 posts, read 5,590,841 times
Reputation: 16596

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinMtAiry View Post
I'm with you. We do not need the government telling us what to do.

Sure it sucks for the employees who often do not have a choice. But then again they have a choice not to work there too. What about the people who don't celebrate Thanksgiving? What about those who need to buy something? What about gas stations who are open to service people who are traveling? Just where do we draw the line? If a company chooses to be open on holidays it's their choice and should be allowed to.
When I was a kid, we still had a bunch of so-called "blue laws", that banned the opening of stores on Sunday and holidays. They also dictated that no more than two unrelated people could live in the same residence. And those two had to be the same sex. Landlords could require prospective tenants to show them marriage certificates, if they were male and female. Help-wanted ads had to specify whether the jobs were for male or female or the newspapers wouldn't print them. They wouldn't print the first names of married women, but would identify them only by their husband's name, with a "Mrs."

Does anyone really want to return to those times? The banning of opening stores on Sunday and holidays are all part of the same kind of repression that was practiced, with the other things I described.

 
Old 11-21-2018, 10:31 PM
 
Location: on the wind
23,297 posts, read 18,837,889 times
Reputation: 75302
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmexman View Post
This corporate greed and fuel for mindless consumerism needs to stop, we need to get back to having holidays being for what they are meant to be. I live in France now and EVERYTHING non-essential is closed on holidays! Because it is mandated by the government and it needs to be the same in the USA! It should be ILLEGAL for retailers and all other non-essential services to be open on Thanksgiving or any other holiday for that matter, give the holidays back to employees and let them have their holidays back!

I would rather have this "socialism" than this unchecked corporate greed we have now.
Do you require a government to tell you how to acknowledge a holiday? If you feel so strongly that no entity should conduct business on these particular days do so for yourself. Conduct NO business on those days. Exchange no money for any products or services. You could take it a step farther and use no utilities either (they are supplied by for-profit businesses, right?). No government edicts would be necessary. BTW, just because the US government has chosen to recognize certain holidays does not mean everyone celebrates them. Which ones you think should be celebrated won't necessarily jibe with everyone else.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 10:32 PM
 
Location: ☀️
1,286 posts, read 1,482,269 times
Reputation: 1518
I actually like working on holidays because I get 1.5x my normal pay rate and it's really good money. This year, I took them off to be with family though. Some people like working the holidays.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
13,480 posts, read 8,382,658 times
Reputation: 25948
I have absolutely no guilt whatsoever about going into a store or restaurant on Thanksgiving Day. And no, I don't apologize to the people that work there when I come in. I've had to work on holidays too. It's life.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 10:35 PM
 
41,110 posts, read 25,734,548 times
Reputation: 13868
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmexman View Post
This corporate greed and fuel for mindless consumerism needs to stop, we need to get back to having holidays being for what they are meant to be. I live in France now and EVERYTHING non-essential is closed on holidays! Because it is mandated by the government and it needs to be the same in the USA! It should be ILLEGAL for retailers and all other non-essential services to be open on Thanksgiving or any other holiday for that matter, give the holidays back to employees and let them have their holidays back!

I would rather have this "socialism" than this unchecked corporate greed we have now.
Why do some people think that it's gov't responsibility? Gov't can't mandate everything. These stores will close on holidays when people stop shopping on the holidays. Instead of placing blame where it belongs (both the people and corporations) you're choosing to blame one when both are part of the problem.

I do wish people would stop shopping on holidays and instead spend time with family. I lost my dad 27 years ago (I was only 30 years old) and I'd give anything to spend time and holiday's with him. People who can be spending time with family instead choose to go shopping instead. Some day you'll be sorry that material things were more important than time with family.

I never shopped on a holiday and never will. I feel bad for people forced to work these days when they shouldn't have to. I worked in healthcare 20+ years and know how it feels although healthcare is very different.

Last edited by petch751; 11-21-2018 at 10:44 PM..
 
Old 11-21-2018, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Charlotte county, Florida
4,196 posts, read 6,424,323 times
Reputation: 12287
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmexman View Post
Gas stations are an essential service. And if people wait until the last minute to grab Thanksgiving food, they will just have to deal.
So if Gas stations are such an essential service. Do you agree that the employees should be paid over the Minimum wage?
 
Old 11-21-2018, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Charlotte county, Florida
4,196 posts, read 6,424,323 times
Reputation: 12287
I also loved working on Holidays.
Not only was it time and a half, I had the added bonus of not having to spend any time with people I could not stand to be around..
 
Old 11-21-2018, 11:17 PM
 
5,479 posts, read 2,120,401 times
Reputation: 8109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caligula1 View Post
So if Gas stations are such an essential service. Do you agree that the employees should be paid over the Minimum wage?
What part of earning what you're worth are you having trouble understanding?

If you don't like the earnings at the unskilled job, you need to increase your skills and reach the next level and earn more. Lather, rinse, repeat until you are where you want to be.....Or be lazy and do nothing but post whining rants about how unfair the world is.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 11:26 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
26,654 posts, read 28,682,916 times
Reputation: 50530
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve McDonald View Post
When I was a kid, we still had a bunch of so-called "blue laws", that banned the opening of stores on Sunday and holidays. They also dictated that no more than two unrelated people could live in the same residence. And those two had to be the same sex. Landlords could require prospective tenants to show them marriage certificates, if they were male and female. Help-wanted ads had to specify whether the jobs were for male or female or the newspapers wouldn't print them. They wouldn't print the first names of married women, but would identify them only by their husband's name, with a "Mrs."

Does anyone really want to return to those times? The banning of opening stores on Sunday and holidays are all part of the same kind of repression that was practiced, with the other things I described.
Yeh, I hated that. Hated the stores being closed on Sunday--when you work all week, the weekends are necessary for shopping.

Just banning stores opening on Thanksgiving and Christmas is nothing compared to that. Two days of not running out and shopping. And with the mass materialism where all some people can think about is buying stuff, maybe we do need some laws to help us out. Remember, some people have no common sense and will not teach their kids that you don't have to run out and buy everything in sight, that's it's ok to stay home with your family a couple of times a year.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 11:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego
18,739 posts, read 7,610,204 times
Reputation: 15006
Quote:
Originally Posted by neko_mimi View Post
So if employees want to work that day, they shouldn't be allowed to? And if I want to shop that day, I also shouldn't be allowed?
You're free to stay home any day you want. Why do you think your ideals should be legally imposed upon everyone else?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmexman View Post
Because it's for the good of everyone. And mindless consumerism and corporate greed must be controlled.
TRANSLATION: If I don't have government controlling everything in my life, I have no life.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:38 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top