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If a Politician from Michigan or New Hampshire or Massachusetts campaigns in the South and uses "yall" or eats grits, or goes to the Iowa State fair and eats deep fried butter,or goes to Louisiana and eats crawfish and says "Laissez les bons temps rouler", they are absolutely modifying their speech and behavioral patterns.
That doesnt make it a negative, and that is the flaw in the premise, assigning the negative.
No, you've just added your own parameters to the study. That's not even what it addressed.
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Liberals crack me up. When I used to live in Houston, we had these crispy white hipster neighbors from Denver that were afraid to say anything to the black family on the other side of them that would let their kids blast music into the middle of the night from their tree-house. I remember this pathetic guy that told us that the music was keeping them up at night, but they didn't want to say anything because they didn't want the family to think that they had a problem with the type of music that was being played.
They finally said something to one of the kids one day when they were walking by after coming home from school. The kids apologized and said "no problem" when asked to keep it down, but my brother told these clowns like 10 minutes later that they had better go and apologize because the last people that lived there almost got beat down by the parents for the same thing. This poor idiot was actually going to go over there and apologize to the parents before my brother clued him in that he was just messing with them....SMH
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No, you've just added your own parameters to the study. That's not even what it addressed.
Im guessing you didn't read the article. It says it bases its hypothosis on words it defines as competent and less competent, and says that comes from political speeches in black churchs.
Im guessing you didn't read the article. It says it bases its hypothosis on words it defines as competent and less competent, and says that comes from political speeches in black churchs.
The hypothesis was partly based on speeches, but the actual experiments they ran were with individuals communicating with other individuals. And no, the words themselves aren't competent or less competent... What they mean is that when you have a large vocabulary, and show that you know how to use it, you are displaying competence.
I understand that both the author and many posting dont actually want to discuss this, but the study(or rather its result) is ill titled.
Do you define it as dumbing down or "Less Competent " when people like Mitt Romney tried to talk with a Southern twang and use an entirely different vocabulary than when talking in the North East ? Im guessing not.
the premise in and of itself is flawed.
even its experiment to prove itself shows the same flaw. Melancholy vs sad, LOL. I think the only time I have ever even used the word melancholy was in a essay to make myself sound more sophisticated. No one uses that word in real life or even in a work email.
You can't mention Mitt without mentioning Hillary's speech to a mostly black audience when she came South some years ago (I seem to remember it was in Birmingham, Ala.). She really turned the hick speech on that day. I suppose she thought she was "fitting in", but she was actually being insulting. One would think she would know better having spent quite a bit of time in Arkansas.
Melancholy is a very good word, and one I don't hesitate to use. It doesn't exactly mean sad, but rather closer to being thoughful and reflective. Would I use it in a work email? I doubt it, but I can't imagine talking about my mood in a work email being appropriate.
You have the right to believe what you just wrote, but it isnt true.
If you are referring to St. Louis, then you are wrong. White firefighters were promoting other white firefighters and not even considering black candidates for Captain.
The argument is that poor students who tend to be disproportionately black, dont get the same opportunities as other students. I already gave you the New York example,which you seem to be ignoring.
The message is that people shouldnt be judged by one test but rather the body of their work in this case. That seems to be a great message to me ? Why do you wish to hold people back based on their access ?
The very point im making is that they arent dumbing it down and that is what makes you wrong.
Even your firefighter example is actually racism and you are wrongly defending it. Maybe you genuinely never looked passed the headlines(which was the point of the 2 New York examples), but that is also part of the problem.
You are way off with what you're writing here. Not St. Louis - it was Dayton.
And I'm not wrong about lowered standards for college admissions. Have you missed all the talk about the lawsuit filed by Asians against Harvard?
A coalition of 64 Asian-American groups has filed a complaint against Harvard for discriminating against Asian-American kids in admissions. They’re right to assume there is a quota system at work. But they’re wrong that it is targeting Asian Americans. In fact, it is discriminating in favor of Blacks and Hispanics.
The complaint, filed with the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, alleges that for Asian-American students to gain admission, they have to have SAT scores 140 points higher than white students, 270 points higher than Hispanic students and 450 points higher than African-American students.
Can you do the math on that? African American's can be admitted with scores that are 450 points lower than what the requirement is for white students and 590 points lower than what the requirement is for Asian students.
If it was REALLY a matter of poverty as you claim, then the requirements would be lower for all students with a household income of X.
That is dumbing it down. Quotas dumb it down, as well, because corporations, government agencies and government services are forced to accept minorities who are not meeting the standards if there weren't enough qualified minorities who applied.
This has nothing to do with the premise of the topic of the post. Save your usual rants about affirmative action for another thread.
Pipe down and quit telling people what they can post. You don't like it? Block me.
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What they mean is that when you have a large vocabulary, and show that you know how to use it, you are displaying competence.
