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How many deaths have resulted from people who used to have affordable insurance that worked, suddenly found their insurance policies cancelled because they didn't conform to Obamacare standards, and were forced to enroll in Obamacare instead?
And found that they had to pay 100% of every procedure out of pocket, until they had spent $6,000 or more... that they didn't have? And so they started skipping procedures, checkups, etc?
And so some of them came down with diseases, injuries etc. that could have been caught and cured early, but were not because it would have cost them too much under Obamacare policies they couldn't afford?
And how many such people eventually died, when they could have lived with their old insurance policy? ZERO?
How many deaths have resulted from people who used to have affordable insurance that worked, suddenly found their insurance policies cancelled because they didn't conform to Obamacare standards, and were forced to enroll in Obamacare instead?
And found that they had to pay 100% of every procedure out of pocket, until they had spent $6,000 or more... that they didn't have? And so they started skipping procedures, checkups, etc?
And so some of them came down with diseases, injuries etc. that could have been caught and cured early, but were not because it would have cost them too much under Obamacare policies they couldn't afford?
And how many such people eventually died, when they could have lived with their old insurance policy? ZERO?
Gosh, these people didn't even get to have their case reviewed by a death panel. Shame.
How many deaths have resulted from people who used to have affordable insurance that worked, suddenly found their insurance policies cancelled because they didn't conform to Obamacare standards, and were forced to enroll in Obamacare instead?
And found that they had to pay 100% of every procedure out of pocket, until they had spent $6,000 or more... that they didn't have? And so they started skipping procedures, checkups, etc?
And so some of them came down with diseases, injuries etc. that could have been caught and cured early, but were not because it would have cost them too much under Obamacare policies they couldn't afford?
And how many such people eventually died, when they could have lived with their old insurance policy? ZERO?
The problem is, that they never used their "old insurance" for checkups or yearly physicals because it wasn't covered anyway. What about the people whose states didn't sign up for expanded Medicare and were too poor for Obamacare and too rich for Medicaid (you make $5000 a year ...you're wealthy in many Southern and Western states!) and died hoping their states would provide something?
How many deaths have resulted from people who used to have affordable insurance that worked, suddenly found their insurance policies cancelled because they didn't conform to Obamacare standards, and were forced to enroll in Obamacare instead?
Those policies that didn't conform to the ACA were junk policies that wouldn't have covered anything had anyone tried to make a claim. The ACA ensures that basic healthcare and hospitalization is covered. Oh, the horror of that!
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And found that they had to pay 100% of every procedure out of pocket, until they had spent $6,000 or more... that they didn't have? And so they started skipping procedures, checkups, etc?
And so some of them came down with diseases, injuries etc. that could have been caught and cured early, but were not because it would have cost them too much under Obamacare policies they couldn't afford?
The ACA provides a well care/preventative care visit once a year free of charge, where patients can get blood work, vaccines, flu shots and screening tests for free. That's for the expressed purpose of catching things early, before they require massive treatment. It sounds like they didn't avail themselves of that.
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And how many such people eventually died, when they could have lived with their old insurance policy? ZERO?
The ACA has saved millions of lives, my sister among them, and provided access to millions more like me, who are self-employed and had no access to healthcare before the ACA.
Is it perfect? No. But it's better than anything the GOP has come up with since pretending that the ACA wasn't their own plan to begin with.
Drug overdose is a Darwin Award in most cases. No loss.
Suicide is an individual's personal decision. I support them in it if they feel life sucks that bad.
life expectancy down due to improved reporting.
back in the day...not so much.
this will skew until the factors match.
then...we can compare like to like.
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