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View Poll Results: Should the US move forward with chip implanting of humans?
Yes! And use it to revolutionize health and wellness. 4 3.70%
Yes, but forbid health agencies from accessing the data. 2 1.85%
Yes, but write a law (perhaps a constitutional amendent) making it strictly voluntary. 4 3.70%
No, no chips in Americans, period. 96 88.89%
other (please explain below). 2 1.85%
Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-27-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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This could be another tremendous benefit of the chips. It could be the greatest crime fighting tool in history.

Much criminal activity is dependent on cash transactions. Drug sales and prostitution are just two obvious examples. By monitoring the chips, we could totally eliminate such criminal activity.
I foresee a booming black-market business in chip removal.
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/65880...der-their-skin

The forward-thinking, progressive Swedes are moving ahead at light speed in implanting of chips--in humans, not just in pets.




According to the link, Sweden is fast moving to a cashless society. Only one in four Swedes still use cash at least once per week. The chips make this easy.

There are some privacy concerns, to be sure.



To me, this represents not a threat, but a boon. As much as 75% of health care costs are behavior-related (smoking, drinking, obesity, etc). Health agencies can now monitor behavior.

Say you're 20 lbs. overweight. You have already purchased 2 chocolate bars today. Now you want to buy a third. 'Sale declined' comes up on the screen. It's no different than your credit card coming up 'declined' if you are over your credit limit. What do you think?
I think Stalin is smiling from hell after reading your post.
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:01 PM
 
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Well, this would guarantee you'd lose an arm if you were being kidnaped.
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/65880...der-their-skin

The forward-thinking, progressive Swedes are moving ahead at light speed in implanting of chips--in humans, not just in pets.




According to the link, Sweden is fast moving to a cashless society. Only one in four Swedes still use cash at least once per week. The chips make this easy.

There are some privacy concerns, to be sure.



To me, this represents not a threat, but a boon. As much as 75% of health care costs are behavior-related (smoking, drinking, obesity, etc). Health agencies can now monitor behavior.

Say you're 20 lbs. overweight. You have already purchased 2 chocolate bars today. Now you want to buy a third. 'Sale declined' comes up on the screen. It's no different than your credit card coming up 'declined' if you are over your credit limit. What do you think?
Not a chance this side of hell.
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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I have a wallet full of retailer cards that I use to get discounts/ special offers. It's a PITB.

I use a C/C for nearly everything I purchase. I would love to swipe my finger and be done with it. It's a convenience.


No government is going to track the number of candy bars you purchased, let alone deny your purchase.
Riiiiiiight.
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: NJ
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depending on where the chip is located, bad guys will be amputating limbs to harvest the chip for nefarious purposes.


would prefer a brain port for storage of info in quiet part of the brain. plug and go, retain photos or anything digital format


one day companies will pay people to rent or lease brain space.


microwaves harmful to chips?
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:32 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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No. Just no. Enough of my personal data is already being collected and used for both good and bad purposes.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Maybe the chocolate bar example is extreme, but for serious health risk purchases, such as cigarettes, alcohol, and marijuana, I could see it being used. We're talking substances that can cost lives.

30 years ago you were considered a loon if you said that smoking should not be allowed in taverns. Now we have passed exactly that, at least in my state. I don't know how many states still allow smoking in bars, but I bet it's a minority.
Tobacco is grown in 19 states. Three states, NC, Ga and Ky, grow 80% of it. I think there are about 12 states without a state- wide smoking ban. Some counties/ municipalities within those states may however ban. Nonetheless, cigarettes are legally sold everywhere, despite the known public health risks

It sure would be easier to ban the sale tobacco products than to do so at the point of sale, no?

I don’t have issues with privacy given I choose to use C/C for most purchases, declare all my income and use a smart phone. If a government had a need to check me out, my life is an open book.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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Absolutely not.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/65880...der-their-skin

The forward-thinking, progressive Swedes are moving ahead at light speed in implanting of chips--in humans, not just in pets.




According to the link, Sweden is fast moving to a cashless society. Only one in four Swedes still use cash at least once per week. The chips make this easy.

There are some privacy concerns, to be sure.



To me, this represents not a threat, but a boon. As much as 75% of health care costs are behavior-related (smoking, drinking, obesity, etc). Health agencies can now monitor behavior.

Say you're 20 lbs. overweight. You have already purchased 2 chocolate bars today. Now you want to buy a third. 'Sale declined' comes up on the screen. It's no different than your credit card coming up 'declined' if you are over your credit limit. What do you think?
Not just no, but HELL! NO!

You are grown adults, you don't need to be "monitored" like you're a child. If you all don't want to pay for the healthcare costs, then stop asking for universal health care.

If I want to buy 3 chocolate bars one day, that's none of your damn business, nor is it the business of some random computerized monitor. Besides, it won't stop the skinny friend from buying the chocolate for the other person. Oh, great idea, black markets here we come! Do progressives not think these things through?

You've got to be kidding me that you actually believe this is a great idea.

What is it with others wanting to control everyone else? Why can't people mind their own fricken business and worry about what they are doing, because I can assure you, there's a whole lot that you do that I would think is ridiculous and unnecessary.
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