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View Poll Results: Should the US move forward with chip implanting of humans?
Yes! And use it to revolutionize health and wellness. 4 3.70%
Yes, but forbid health agencies from accessing the data. 2 1.85%
Yes, but write a law (perhaps a constitutional amendent) making it strictly voluntary. 4 3.70%
No, no chips in Americans, period. 96 88.89%
other (please explain below). 2 1.85%
Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-27-2018, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/65880...der-their-skin

The forward-thinking, progressive Swedes are moving ahead at light speed in implanting of chips--in humans, not just in pets.


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Erik Frisk, a 30-year-old Web developer and designer, says he was really curious about the technology as soon as he heard about it and decided to get his own chip in 2014.
... [the trend has] been spreading and people have seen the benefits," Frisk says.
When Frisk moved into a shared house earlier this year, he organized a chipping party for his new housemates. Now they can access...[their] building ...by tapping their hands on a digital reader by the door.
According to the link, Sweden is fast moving to a cashless society. Only one in four Swedes still use cash at least once per week. The chips make this easy.

There are some privacy concerns, to be sure.

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Libberton, a trained microbiologist now working in science communication, says one of his main concerns is how the chips could be used to share data about our physical health and bodily functions.
"Because it's implanted in your body, when more health-related information starts being used and incorporated into the chip and being transmitted — that could create an extra layer of privacy that we really need to look at and take care of before it's widely used," he says.
To me, this represents not a threat, but a boon. As much as 75% of health care costs are behavior-related (smoking, drinking, obesity, etc). Health agencies can now monitor behavior.

Say you're 20 lbs. overweight. You have already purchased 2 chocolate bars today. Now you want to buy a third. 'Sale declined' comes up on the screen. It's no different than your credit card coming up 'declined' if you are over your credit limit. What do you think?
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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There are some privacy issues?
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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NO! NO! A Thousand times NO!
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I have a wallet full of retailer cards that I use to get discounts/ special offers. It's a PITB.

I use a C/C for nearly everything I purchase. I would love to swipe my finger and be done with it. It's a convenience.


No government is going to track the number of candy bars you purchased, let alone deny your purchase.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:02 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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I. Do. Not. Need. To. Be. Monitored.

By anyone. For any reason. Ever.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I have a wallet full of retailer cards that I use to get discounts/ special offers. It's a PITB.

I use a C/C for nearly everything I purchase. I would love to swipe my finger and be done with it. It's a convenience.


No government is going to track the number of candy bars you purchased, let alone deny your purchase.
Maybe the chocolate bar example is extreme, but for serious health risk purchases, such as cigarettes, alcohol, and marijuana, I could see it being used. We're talking substances that can cost lives.

30 years ago you were considered a loon if you said that smoking should not be allowed in taverns. Now we have passed exactly that, at least in my state. I don't know how many states still allow smoking in bars, but I bet it's a minority.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/65880...der-their-skin

The forward-thinking, progressive Swedes are moving ahead at light speed in implanting of chips--in humans, not just in pets.




According to the link, Sweden is fast moving to a cashless society. Only one in four Swedes still use cash at least once per week. The chips make this easy.

There are some privacy concerns, to be sure.



To me, this represents not a threat, but a boon. As much as 75% of health care costs are behavior-related (smoking, drinking, obesity, etc). Health agencies can now monitor behavior.

Say you're 20 lbs. overweight. You have already purchased 2 chocolate bars today. Now you want to buy a third. 'Sale declined' comes up on the screen. It's no different than your credit card coming up 'declined' if you are over your credit limit. What do you think?

What do I think? What do you think? What do you really think?

Because if you think that this intrusive chip idea is a good one, allow me: You and the gubment can keep your hands out of my wallet, your beaks out of my refrigerator, and your chips to yourselves. IOW, mind your own damn business.

Okay?
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If a person with a chip has dementia, you could take him/her to the dogcatcher and learn his/her identity.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I’m all for chip implants for convicted felons, sex offenders, etc. like the ones in the movies that explode.
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I’m all for chip implants for convicted felons, sex offenders, etc. like the ones in the movies that explode.
This could be another tremendous benefit of the chips. It could be the greatest crime fighting tool in history.

Much criminal activity is dependent on cash transactions. Drug sales and prostitution are just two obvious examples. By monitoring the chips, we could totally eliminate such criminal activity.
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