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Old 11-29-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Oh grow up, typos happen. That has nothing to do with whether Shapiro is an idiot or not.
Do you think others considered that a typo on your part? I see no evidence in your posts that would indicate you'd know the difference. Now if it were Ben, yes, I would be thought of as a typo.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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I have, and they only confirm to me that he truly has no idea what he's talking about.

Your topic has backfired on you son. Probably time to move on while you might still have a little dignity left.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:11 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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Shapiro is great at arguing and defending bad ideas. The problem is they are still bad ideas and his followers seem to be more enamored by his debating skills then the ideas he is putting forth.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Your topic has backfired on you son. Probably time to move on while you might still have a little dignity left.
Waldo, do you think supporting genocide and climate change ignorance are signs of intelligence?
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Seriously, it’s pathetic that people see him as an intellectual.

Besides the fact he is pro-genocide, he also makes arguments without any thought like his one on climate change:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq....change-lol/amp

Even in this article it fails to mention the affects on agriculture and vegetation rising sea levels would have, but quick talking frauds like Shapiro trick simple minded people.
Ben Shapiro is a lot of things, and overall I don't particularly care for him, but to say that he's a "fraud" and not an intellect? And this coming from someone who thinks Cuba has a great government?

THAT is funny! Ben Shapiro could run circles around you in intellect. You just don't like him because he knows socialism/communism is BS!
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Ben Shapiro is a lot of things, and overall I don't particularly care for him, but to say that he's a "fraud" and not an intellect? And this coming from someone who thinks Cuba has a great government?

THAT is funny! Ben Shapiro could run circles around you in intellect. You just don't like him because he knows socialism/communism is BS!
Unlike you I actually explained my position. Talking fast doesn’t make you smart, if you listen to the substance of his arguments you’ll learn what a weak individual he is:

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I disagree.

Intelligence has been defined in many ways, including: the capacity for logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, and problem solving.

From such a definition we can look at Shapiro step by step. Logic isn’t his strong suit evidently as he makes false logical conclusions all the time. He believes if sea levels rise people will just sell their beachfront property and move inland, as if such property could even be sold or the fact that massive affects on agricultural and vegetation would affect everyone, something the market is not prepared for. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. He also says anyone who gets married, has a job, and doesn’t have sex out of wedlock will be successful ignoring the huge amount of external factors that make these effects, not causes of a high living standard.

Understanding we can also right off as he doesn’t know what socialism means, he doesn’t understand the situation in the Middle East besides Israel good, Arabs bad (and the implications with his own friendly behavior to the Saudis). Self-awareness is a maybe, some say he is just doing it for the money, but it’s difficult to judge how extensive that self-awareness is if it is even there. Learning I don’t know.

Emotional knowledge is zero, his arbitrary facts over feelings and his break from such a saying when it comes to issues he supports requires a great deal of emotional arrogance and a lack of empathy (purposeful of otherwise). Reasoning is not there with him for the same reason he fails at the logic test.

Creativity and problem solving too can be considered not part of Shapiro’s mental capacity as he never offers a solution to any of the problems brought forth.

He lazily rights off climate change, war, poverty, and other issues as policies we need to continue unabated and let the free markets solve. Even if you believe in the free markets that answer offers no suggestions to how our policies might be affecting it in the first place.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Unlike you I actually explained my position. Talking fast doesn’t make you smart, if you listen to the substance of his arguments you’ll learn what a weak individual he is:
It took you how many posts to do that? Only after you were called out for not doing so? The substance of his arguments is spot on. I've seen plenty of what he's said. The only people who think he's "not an intellect" or unintelligent are those who get burned by his facts - because that's what he deals with. He doesn't deal with "feeeeeeelings".

He's a very intelligent individual. I don't like him for certain reasons that have nothing to with his intelligence, more about his demeanor overall - he is arrogant, but he does have the intellect to back up that arrogance.

Your explanation is laughable. You, again, only gave your opinion, provided absolutely no substantial evidence to prove that he "doesn't understand socialism" or that "logic isn't his strong suit". It's quite the opposite. He knows what socialism is, and his logic pi$$es off a lot of people because they can't debate it - because it's spot on.

He is highly educated, he knows his facts, he has smacked down many a liberal with logic and facts. That's why lefties don't like him, and socialists/communists who think Cuba is a great place to live also don't like him. The logic hurts them.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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It took you how many posts to do that? Only after you were called out for not doing so? The substance of his arguments is spot on. I've seen plenty of what he's said. The only people who think he's "not an intellect" or unintelligent are those who get burned by his facts - because that's what he deals with. He doesn't deal with "feeeeeeelings".

He's a very intelligent individual. I don't like him for certain reasons that have nothing to with his intelligence, more about his demeanor overall - he is arrogant, but he does have the intellect to back up that arrogance.

Your explanation is laughable. You, again, only gave your opinion, provided absolutely no substantial evidence to prove that he "doesn't understand socialism" or that "logic isn't his strong suit". It's quite the opposite. He knows what socialism is, and his logic pi$$es off a lot of people because they can't debate it - because it's spot on.

He is highly educated, he knows his facts, he has smacked down many a liberal with logic and facts. That's why lefties don't like him, and socialists/communists who think Cuba is a great place to live also don't like him. The logic hurts them.
There is no logic to his arguments. His smack downs have nothing to do with intelligence, but fast talking and speech strategies.

That is a fact, he supports genocide, is ignorant about geological affects, does not understand socialism or what worker cooperatives, and he doesn’t even understand capitalism.

He can talk fast but he can’t think thoroughly.
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Old 11-29-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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Oh grow up, typos happen. That has nothing to do with whether Shapiro is an idiot or not.
I think it’s damn good since Russian is your first language.
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Old 11-29-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Lol.

/thread.
I'm actually surprised seeing so many of conservatives' sudden love for Harvard.
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