Researchers find 276,000 more children uninsured in Trump’s first year in office

[craigiri]

Originally Posted by usayit

Again... you can't afford your expectations of living.. you think you can.. but you can't.

The reality is, you don't make 100k... you 100k minus health care costs.

What it comes down to.... at a 6 figure income, YES you can afford health care. But you choose not too... and that's your choice... your blame.

Health care for people who live longer in Japan is $3K per person per year.
Health care for Germans or Danes is about 6K per person per year.
Health Care in CUBA is about $500 per person per year AND THEY LIVE LONGER than we do.

Health care in the USA is close to 11K per person per year.

So, since you are all about paying your own bills, let's do the math on our 100K couple with two kids.

100K income - minus fed taxes and ss and medicare and state taxes. Let's say they net 80K per year.

4 people X 11K per year (USA per capital health care) = 44K per year.
2 Kids in School at 13K per year each = 26K

Well, we've reached 70K just on education and health care. That leaves 10K for
Mortgage
Cars and transportation
Furnishings
Savings/Retirement
Utilities
Repairs and upkeep

This doesn't balance! Why? Easy, because the US Government pays 2/3rd of all health care costs in this country and does do out of debt and deficit. We ALL are on welfare unless we pay in excess of 70K per year in taxes and health care costs year after year...and how many people do that?

Not many.

At the predatory pricing and terrible value of our health care - no, you cannot afford health care. At 1/2 the price, which is where it should be, many could afford it.

[jasperhobbs]

Originally Posted by craigiri

Health care for people who live longer in Japan is $3K per person per year.
Health care for Germans or Danes is about 6K per person per year.
Health Care in CUBA is about $500 per person per year AND THEY LIVE LONGER than we do.

Health care in the USA is close to 11K per person per year.

So, since you are all about paying your own bills, let's do the math on our 100K couple with two kids.

100K income - minus fed taxes and ss and medicare and state taxes. Let's say they net 80K per year.

4 people X 11K per year (USA per capital health care) = 44K per year.
2 Kids in School at 13K per year each = 26K

Well, we've reached 70K just on education and health care. That leaves 10K for
Mortgage
Cars and transportation
Furnishings
Savings/Retirement
Utilities
Repairs and upkeep

This doesn't balance! Why? Easy, because the US Government pays 2/3rd of all health care costs in this country and does do out of debt and deficit. We ALL are on welfare unless we pay in excess of 70K per year in taxes and health care costs year after year...and how many people do that?

Not many.

At the predatory pricing and terrible value of our health care - no, you cannot afford health care. At 1/2 the price, which is where it should be, many could afford it.

But but didn't Trump campaign that he would replace Obamacare with something better and cheaper?

[usayit]

Originally Posted by craigiri

Health care for people who live longer in Japan is $3K per person per year.
Health care for Germans or Danes is about 6K per person per year.
Health Care in CUBA is about $500 per person per year AND THEY LIVE LONGER than we do.

Health care in the USA is close to 11K per person per year.

So, since you are all about paying your own bills, let's do the math on our 100K couple with two kids.

100K income - minus fed taxes and ss and medicare and state taxes. Let's say they net 80K per year.

4 people X 11K per year (USA per capital health care) = 44K per year.
2 Kids in School at 13K per year each = 26K

Well, we've reached 70K just on education and health care. That leaves 10K for
Mortgage
Cars and transportation
Furnishings
Savings/Retirement
Utilities
Repairs and upkeep

This doesn't balance! Why? Easy, because the US Government pays 2/3rd of all health care costs in this country and does do out of debt and deficit. We ALL are on welfare unless we pay in excess of 70K per year in taxes and health care costs year after year...and how many people do that?

Not many.

At the predatory pricing and terrible value of our health care - no, you cannot afford health care. At 1/2 the price, which is where it should be, many could afford it.

2 kids in school... you can't afford it. That's the reality. Each of my three know exactly what they must do to get to college because even though I make a good living, it is not enough. That's the reality. Sure I am going to help.. but I'm not under any delusion that they are going to get a free ride curtesy of mommy/daddy. It is my responsibility to prepare them for that. Yes.. it sucks... but that's the reality.

You should read my posts more clearly.

I'm not saying this is a good situation.... it sucks (national debt and all). However, I have very little pity for whining from a household income that is almost double of the national average. This isn't discussion about health care costs, it is about ACA/Obamacare. Two different topics. The poster I responded to quoted 800/month for a family of 4+. So we are NOT talking about $44k a year but $9600 per year..... and yet whining about how it is unaffordable.

Most of my friends are in very low income. Under $30k. They don't whine this much.

[Danno3314]

Enrollment into ObamaCare for 2017 (Trumps first year in Ofcice) was at the end of 2016 prior to Trump's first year.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by craigiri

Health care for people who live longer in Japan is $3K per person per year.
Health care for Germans or Danes is about 6K per person per year.
Health Care in CUBA is about $500 per person per year AND THEY LIVE LONGER than we do.

Health care in the USA is close to 11K per person per year.

So, since you are all about paying your own bills, let's do the math on our 100K couple with two kids.

100K income - minus fed taxes and ss and medicare and state taxes. Let's say they net 80K per year.

4 people X 11K per year (USA per capital health care) = 44K per year.
2 Kids in School at 13K per year each = 26K

Well, we've reached 70K just on education and health care. That leaves 10K for
Mortgage
Cars and transportation
Furnishings
Savings/Retirement
Utilities
Repairs and upkeep

This doesn't balance! Why? Easy, because the US Government pays 2/3rd of all health care costs in this country and does do out of debt and deficit. We ALL are on welfare unless we pay in excess of 70K per year in taxes and health care costs year after year...and how many people do that?

Not many.

At the predatory pricing and terrible value of our health care - no, you cannot afford health care. At 1/2 the price, which is where it should be, many could afford it.

What do the doctors make in those countries? The nurses? Our life expectancy is roughly equivalent to the EU overall. https://www.infoplease.com/world/hea...cy-countries-0 Shockingly (/s), in Britain, the life expectancy is considerably lower for the poor than for the well off: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8211866.html The US does have better cancer survival rates than many countries. https://www.healio.com/hematology-on...ghest-in-world So before you go throwing the baby out with the bathwater, you'd do well to really examine health care in the various countries.

[JimRom]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

Put it up there, Bucko.

Without insurance they don't get vaccinations, ear infections go untreated, ...

Compassion aside, which seems in mighty short supply on the right, these kids are sitting next to your kids and grandkids at McDonalds. Playing on the same equipment. Their spinal meningitis is contagious.

I have yet to find a county which didn't provide free immunizations for children, and I've lived in 18 states. Most also have a free clinic which deals with minor childhood illnesses.

[T-310]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rese...ry?id=59472116

#MAGA

That’s the parents problem. Can’t afford them, don’t breed them.

[skeddy]

Originally Posted by JimRom

I have yet to find a county which didn't provide free immunizations for children, and I've lived in 18 states. Most also have a free clinic which deals with minor childhood illnesses.

but but thats not what MSNBC says!