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Those policies that didn't conform to the ACA were junk policies that wouldn't have covered anything had anyone tried to make a claim. The ACA ensures that basic healthcare and hospitalization is covered. Oh, the horror of that!
The ACA provides a well care/preventative care visit once a year free of charge, where patients can get blood work, vaccines, flu shots and screening tests for free. That's for the expressed purpose of catching things early, before they require massive treatment. It sounds like they didn't avail themselves of that.
The ACA has saved millions of lives, my sister among them, and provided access to millions more like me, who are self-employed and had no access to healthcare before the ACA.
Is it perfect? No. But it's better than anything the GOP has come up with since pretending that the ACA wasn't their own plan to begin with.
Why is it always about what the GOP might have done?
If I paint an ugly painting it doesn't make it less ugly because you say that it's better than what a chimp might have painted.
Obama and Pelosi enjoyed a super majority and passed the unaffordable care act without a single vote from the right.
What you should be saying is: We could have had single payer, we could have had a system like Australia, or Sweden, or Norway. Instead they gave us a very flawed system that is way over priced.
How many deaths have resulted from people who used to have affordable insurance that worked, suddenly found their insurance policies cancelled because they didn't conform to Obamacare standards, and were forced to enroll in Obamacare instead?
And found that they had to pay 100% of every procedure out of pocket, until they had spent $6,000 or more... that they didn't have? And so they started skipping procedures, checkups, etc?
And so some of them came down with diseases, injuries etc. that could have been caught and cured early, but were not because it would have cost them too much under Obamacare policies they couldn't afford?
And how many such people eventually died, when they could have lived with their old insurance policy? ZERO?
And they also have universal health care. Imagine that.
yes I can
I can also imagine that we could have had that instead of Obama's unaffordable care act.
Why is the left so willing to give Obama , Pelosi and the Dems a free pass for screwing us with a very bad system. You can't blame it on the GOP. They weren't going to vote for any system change. The left had the power and and they punted.
The problem is, that they never used their "old insurance" for checkups or yearly physicals because it wasn't covered anyway. What about the people whose states didn't sign up for expanded Medicare and were too poor for Obamacare and too rich for Medicaid (you make $5000 a year ...you're wealthy in many Southern and Western states!) and died hoping their states would provide something?
But most Republicans in Red States that still don't have expanded Medicaid are quite strongly opposed to it, because they believe it forces yet more people to be dependent upon the government for medical care. To Republicans that is very, very wrong and immoral situation for people to find themselves in.
Why is it always about what the GOP might have done?
Because they made it their mission to destroy the ACA rather than work with the Democrats to strengthen and improve it after it was launched. All we heard for four years was, "repeal and replace, repeal and replace." And when they had their chance to do exactly that, it turns out they had nothing to replace it with.
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Originally Posted by boneyard1962
Obama and Pelosi enjoyed a super majority and passed the unaffordable care act without a single vote from the right.
What you should be saying is: We could have had single payer, we could have had a system like Australia, or Sweden, or Norway. Instead they gave us a very flawed system that is way over priced.
They had a super majority for exactly two months because Al Franken wasn't seated for six months. Then two months after he was, Ted Kennedy died and was replaced by Republican Scott Brown. No more super majority, so they had to go with what they could get passed, with the blue dog democrat Ben Nelson from Nebraska saying he would not support anything that contained a single payer option. This is what we got through.
The one thing I was actually excited about when Trump was elected was seeing this wonderful plan he had that would cover everybody and be affordable. But he lied, as usual. He had nothing. And neither did a single Republican. And they still don't.
life expectancy down due to improved reporting.
back in the day...not so much.
this will skew until the factors match.
then...we can compare like to like.
Back in the day when people died nobody found out about it?
Back in the day when people died nobody found out about it?
Kind of like those 110 year old pensioners in Japan whose 80 year old children hid the bodies so the checks would keep coming.
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