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Old 12-12-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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The whole Grinch story centers around him breaking and entering into peoples homes and burglarizing them. Its a tribute to crime and targets Christmas as something to be banned. Oh, that's why it isn't banned.
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Old 12-12-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: New York
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But Jay Z is a media darling and rap is pushed incessantly on our youth. MSM working overtime to push the narrative this season.

To all the normal non-npc’s out there - Merry Christmas!
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Old 12-12-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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To be fair, the War on Christmas started way before Trump. But he told his base that he was ending it. So why is this even still an issue?

I think he is ending it, starting with Melania's Russian Red trees.
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Thought many of you might enjoy this Rolling Stone article about the history of this song - https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...istory-768183/ - and the arguments about it.

Of note - Loesser and his wife co-wrote the song and performed it at their household parties.

"In 1948, he sold the rights to a song he wrote in 1944 and performed informally at parties with his then wife Lynn Garland to MGM. The studio included it in the 1949 movie Neptune's Daughter, and the song, "Baby, It's Cold Outside", became a huge hit. Garland was mad at Loesser for selling what she considered "their song" to MGM.[16] He ended up winning the Academy Award for Best Original Song for the song." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Loesser

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Old 12-13-2018, 10:09 PM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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It's upbeat : Irrelevant. Upbeat tones can accompany any kind of human act, good or bad. Put another way, even the most atrocious acts can be portrayed in an upbeat way. The same in 1940s as today.

It's innocent. There was a time, when I was younger, I'd think that way too. I'd've though the song's romantic in the sense that the man loves her so much that he really wants to spend more time with her (innocently) - and as such would hate to spend a moment without her.

But "unfortunately", I later discovered something called subtext - a word or phrase that may seem innocent at face value, but contains an underlying suggestion of something bad. F.ex. "You're a hot, beautiful girl. You don't need to be out in that area at night", or even less subtle, a mafia enforcer telling a small business owner "This here's a high crime area. Shame if something happened to this business of yours".

Free Speech. Apparently I have to say this again and again and again: The First Amendment only applies to government banning of speech. It says nothing about private entities regulation of speech. I suppose the media refusing to show Amos & Andy is censorship, too. Or more to the point, refusing to broadcast pornography on network TV at 4 pm on Wednesday is censorship (i.e. when the kids are home from school). Same with lots of obviously bigoted slurs (unless it's the clear villain using them). Private entities can do what they want. If you don't like it, start your own version of Netflix, Hulu, or whatever.

As if it's not obvious already, I'm all for the radio station scratching that song off its playlist.
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