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Old 12-03-2018, 05:37 AM
 
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I still contend that government regulation and vigorous enforcement manages wildlife stock much better that trophy hunting.
"Trophy hunting" (which is being used in this thread as a derogatory term for the concept of the issuance of licenses and tags) is the cornerstone of government regulation and vigorous enforcement of wildlife population management, for everything from wolves to alligators to deer to crabs.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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So, because the title of the article say it was "trophy hunting" it was no doubt "trophy hunting"?


I'm finding that hard to believe, as one other person has stated, this female was not the "Alpha" female of the group.


And before you start to complain, I don't agree with trophy hunting of any kind.....but I don't think this is the case, just because someone killed this particular animal. Also, the article states this: "less than five miles from the northeast entrance of Yellowstone", so less than 5 miles means he was waiting on just this animal to "wander" of Yellowstone?....sorry, but this article is nothing more than "look, someone was ONLY trophy hunting....." Sorry, does not pass the smell test to me.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The loss of this wolf will most likely affect the whole pack, being that it was 7 years old. So wolf hunting is legal in Montana? Wolves should be protected in every state.
Nope.


Just like coyotes, they are a predator and a threat to livestock.
They breed and multiply fast.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:39 AM
 
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Native Americans never "herd Managed" the way white men "herd manage". we never killed the top animal of a species as we wanted the species to be strong in their genes. The herd social life is totally overturned and vulnerable to the other forces of nature when you kill the leader or top animal.
Many localized animal social orders are entirely destroyed when the leader or top animal is killed.

And for what? the ego gratification of one individual to show that he killed the top animal in the forest.

With a bullet, from 300 yds. away, then went to check his kill in his ATV.
Some Manly of a man there never was.

Sorry to burst your bubble but government regulation and rigid enforcement preserves wildlife much better that charging a small fortune to hunt the biggest tiger in the forest.
You live in a fantasy world.

Herd management was to run the herd off a cliff. Just like habitat management was to keep burning the land until almost nothing could grow anymore. Just like population management was to slaughter other tribes including women and children. Life must be nice inside a beautiful little bubble.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:02 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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What a load. Wolves are considered pests just like coyotes. No one "trophy hunts" a friggin pest. People shoot them because the eat pets and livestock. What a twisted article.

Wolves that eat fluffy the sheep good, people that kill wolves that eat fluffy the sheep... bad.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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Trophy hunting disgusts me. If you don't plan to eat it or wear it, don't kill it.
Do you plan to eat the rats, mosquitoes and cockroaches you kill?
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:16 AM
 
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Trophy hunting is big with the Texas elite. I've seen it first hand in a few houses. Disturbing mentality.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Native Americans never "herd Managed" the way white men "herd manage". we never killed the top animal of a species as we wanted the species to be strong in their genes. The herd social life is totally overturned and vulnerable to the other forces of nature when you kill the leader or top animal.
Many localized animal social orders are entirely destroyed when the leader or top animal is killed.

And for what? the ego gratification of one individual to show that he killed the top animal in the forest.

With a bullet, from 300 yds. away, then went to check his kill in his ATV.
Some Manly of a man there never was.

Sorry to burst your bubble but government regulation and rigid enforcement preserves wildlife much better that charging a small fortune to hunt the biggest tiger in the forest.
Ya, ok. Sure.

Early humans also drove megafaunal extinctions | THE WILDLIFE SOCIETY

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Old 12-03-2018, 07:23 AM
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Very sad.

I'm not opposed to hunting done in a responsible manner, but any real hunter with a conscience would find nothing good about this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/beloved-y...173328879.html
I am all for responsible management of land and regulations that benefit animals rather than indiscriminate hunting.

In my opinion a dead animal is never a trophy, it should be something that is culled as a last resort and taken out as humanely and cleanly as possible.

I hate to see pictures of people showing off what they have just killed.

Proper marksman and hunters identify and kill but only as a last resort, and don't take any great pleasure or glory out of what is often a profession rather than some sporting quest.

A lot of people were outraged in the UK after American hunteress, Larysa Switlyk posed with a wild goat she had killed on Island of Islay in Scotland. In response the Scottish Government is now gone as far as reviewing it's culling laws and Switlyk was labelled 'sickening’ and ‘truly abhorrent’. There have also been death threats made to Switlyk if she ever returns to Scotland again, such was the anger that caused.

Scotland to review cull laws after 'sickening' goat hunt tweets | The Guardian

US huntress who slayed Scots animals poses with bloodied sex toy - Scottish Daily Record

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Old 12-03-2018, 07:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I am all for responsible management of land and regulations that benefit animals rather than indiscriminate hunting.

In my opinion a dead animal os never a trophy, it should be something that is culled as a last resort and taken out as humanely and cleanly as possible.

I hate to see pictures of people showing off what they have just killed.

Proper marksman and hunters identify and kill but only as a last resort, and don't take any great pleasure or glory out of what is often a profession rather than some sporting quest.

A lot of people were outraged in the UK after American hunteress, Larysa Switlyk posed with a wild goat she had killed on Island of Islay in Scotland. In response the Scottish Government is now gone as far as reviewing it's culling laws and Switlyk was labelled 'sickening’ and ‘truly abhorrent’.


Scotland to review cull laws after 'sickening' goat hunt tweets | The Guardian


Ban pictures of hunting. Jesus H Christ.



Yet people are ok with others killing stuff for them. Go visit a slaughterhouse sometime. That prime rib people are eating at the local swill house didn't get there by growing it in a petri dish.
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