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Old 12-03-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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I suspect with Cohen flipping and the Deutsche Bank raid Russia has concluded that Trump is a lost cause and is resigned to the fact that the Trump-Russia conspiracy will be fully exposed. The Ukraine incident may have been a test of Trump's loyalty to Putin; since Trump quickly criticized Russia and cancelled their one-on-one meeting, Putin may have decided enough is enough and there's no hope in getting sanctions lifted like Trump promised.
It is highly unlikely that Russia ever believed they would get anything concrete out of Trump like getting sanctions lifted. They value him because he promotes chaos and division in the USA at a level that they could never hope for in their wildest KGB pipe dreams.

That they have something on him would not surprise me at all, how they will use it is another matter.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins...tes?ref=scroll

“Trump is a rock hanging around Russia's neck."

“as long as Trump is in power, nothing positive can happen in the relations between the United States and Russia”

"he seems to be an unbalanced person."


Of course nothing is printed in Russian media without the full approval of the Kremlin. Now that Putin is separating himself from Trump, he should be worried. Very worried. Who knows what compromising information Russia will leak to the West. Highly damaging compromising information can be the torpedo that sinks Trump's ship for good.
False, Russian media censorship only extends to criticizing Putin/current ruling coalition. There is no censorship when it comes to criticizing anyone else, like foreign leaders or even local government officials. You can always find pro-Trump or anti-Trump op-eds or talk show opinions on Russian TV or any other country's news media for that matter.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You do realize Trump does not need to have been found to have colluded with Russia directly to be in trouble right? Nixon didn't break into Watergate, Clinton was impeached for something that had nothing to do with the initial investigation. With all the liars and crooks occupying the White House for these 2 years it's insane to discount the possibility that nothing will be discovered.



You best prepare yourself for this.

OK, so what is the crime that was committed and who committed it?

We know who the Plumbers were and know the crime they committed was burglary.

We know who Bill Clinton is and we know the crime he committed was perjury.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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From what we know of Individual 1 and his band of swamp creatures anyone who is totally dismissing any possibility that Mueller has found troubling things behind the curtains he has pulled back is kind of fooling themselves. I have no idea what this latest news means. It's obvious that Trump was admiring Putin for a long time, he made no secret of that. Now even they are calling him unstable. LOL
Just to be clear ..... we are talking about the same Mueller who has spent over $40 Million dollars and over 18 Months to confirm that Donald Trump built hotels and that Paul Manafort was a Foreign Lobbyist? We are also talking about the same President Trump who refused to meet with Putin at the G-20?

I expect Mueller to do a dawn raid on Trump’s barber any day now.

I don’t “dismiss” anything- but Mueller is not exactly throwing strikes and Putin is ticked off because he can’t even get a meeting.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Just to be clear ... you are full of it..

The Mueller investigation has not cost $40 million. Closer to $20 million and given the $30 million or so they have already seized for the U.S. Treasury it may end up making money before it's all over.

The Mueller investigation has confirmed a lot more than Trump lied about doing business with Russia during the run up to the election. Campaign Manager and National Security Advisor were also Russian agents. Several have gone to prison and more on the way.

Putin met with Trump at G20.

Kibby, you really need to make more of an effort to keep up here.

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Old 12-03-2018, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Any idiot can see the POTUS is an unbalanced person.

Therefore any idiot can see that Russian media is speaking the truth here.
Wait--did you just call yourself an idiot? Hmmm..ok..
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Up til now there's been no difference between Russian media and Fox News/Breitbart.

Exactly!
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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lmao..You do realize that you can only impeach for something done WHILE IN OFFICE RIGHT? Even if there was collusion, which there clearly wasn't, it's not illegal and he wasn't in office. There goes your impeachment wet dream, right into your sock.
It is as if you are totally unaware that all sorts of things could have taken place after he took office. Orchestrating a cover up, lying to Mueller, obstruction of justice, possible conflict of interest regarding his businesses. All of this is still in play. And of course since you have not seen the evidence your proclamation that there was absolutely no collusion is embarassing. None of us know if there was or was not collusion at this point in time.

Personally I do not think he will be impeached. It takes a whole lot for that to happen, as it should, and with a GOP Senate he will be protected. But that hardly means he did nothing wrong, you really have to be stubborn and naive to believe that is impossible.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins...tes?ref=scroll

“Trump is a rock hanging around Russia's neck."

“as long as Trump is in power, nothing positive can happen in the relations between the United States and Russia”

"he seems to be an unbalanced person."
unpossible.

LWNJs have assured us countless times that trump is putin's 'puppet'. no way a 'puppet' would get mistreated and discarded as you claim.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:32 PM
 
Location: NC
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Russia media has fake news like CNN?
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