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Old 12-05-2018, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If the U.S. didn't have soldiers guarding the Afghan poppy crops for the CIA 77K people in the U.S. wouldn't be dead, either.
The vast majority of heroin in the US is sourced from Central America, not Afghanistan.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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The vast majority of heroin in the US is sourced from Central America, not Afghanistan.
Keep in mind,the poppies are not necessarily grown in the same place as the places where they turn the raw opium into heroin.


IN order to keep the ENTIRE US supplied in dope so consistently, they need 100s of 1000s of acres of poppies. It takes roughly 5-8 acres in poppy plants to produce enough raw opium needed for heroin, to keep 1 single user supplied daily!!!
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Poppy farmers in Mexico are pushing to decriminalize.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-11-...artel-violence
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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So, we just continue to keep our mouths shut?
Well who is "we"?
If people want to buy Chinese fentanyl its up to them. Im not recommending people do so, but it is likewise none of my business or Trumps. The drug war and prohibition is a proven failure.
Now if the Chinese govt wants to execute its own people for possessing and/or selling a substance its politicians disapprove of, that is on them.
I find it ironic Trump is concerned about the well being and drug use of others while he bombs the crap out of other countries and defends the poppy trade in Afghanistan. He has no moral authority to intervene, nor does the govt rule book allow for it.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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So, we just continue to keep our mouths shut?
About what?

The only way to stop people from ODing is education about its dangers, not punishing capitalist entrepreneurs.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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Well who is "we"?
If people want to buy Chinese fentanyl its up to them. Im not recommending people do so, but it is likewise none of my business or Trumps. The drug war and prohibition is a proven failure.
Now if the Chinese govt wants to execute its own people for possessing and/or selling a substance its politicians disapprove of, that is on them.
I find it ironic Trump is concerned about the well being and drug use of others while he bombs the crap out of other countries and defends the poppy trade in Afghanistan. He has no moral authority to intervene, nor does the govt rule book allow for it.
Trump is smooching up to law enforcement, they are the ones who ultimately benefit from these medieval drug laws.


Without drug crime and drug related crime, many police would be out of work in the US.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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The vast majority of heroin in the US is sourced from Central America, not Afghanistan.
90% of the world's heroin supply comes from Afghanistan.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Exactly right, great points.


Maybe Trump is just upset they are skirting the taxes and making truckloads of money?! LOL
He's always been envious of successful business people, since he was never one himself.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Trump is smooching up to law enforcement, they are the ones who ultimately benefit from these medieval drug laws.


Without drug crime and drug related crime, many police would be out of work in the US.
This times $22 trillion.

The War on Us is big business for police departments.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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He is suggesting China ( the source ) apply the death penalty, no?
Like he suggested the fate of Kashoggi the journalist. Yes?

Certain he obstructed Intel available to warn Kashoggi.
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