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Wow, the British press is really extremist in their propaganda: even in the face of a referendum that contradicts their strongly stated views.
Seemingly, the West won't have its democracy back until such institutions are completely reformed to essentially not be oppressive political levers for the communists / progressives.
There weren't any lies about how the "economics" of a Trump Presidency would work it. There weren't even any claims.
Ask for access to the internet and watch some of his campaign rally speeches and debates.
"We will double our growth and have the strongest economy anywhere in the world.”
“We're bringing it (the GDP) from 1 percent up to 4 percent. And I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.”
"It can be done. ... It will take place and it will go relatively quickly. ... If you have the right people, like, in the agencies and the various people that do the balancing ... you can cut the numbers by two pennies and three pennies and balance a budget quickly and have a stronger and better country."
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You seem to be placing a lot of faith in how important it is to EU nations to sell German autos to Brits. We'll see.
I suspect everyone else has long since lost interest in your optimism on how grand things are going to be after Brexit.
Alas, I find my interest waning as well.
Good luck with this.
It's not just German Autos, virtually the entire EU has a trade surplus with the EU.
The French sell lots of agriculture to us, whilst in terms of cars and white goods, the French, Italians and Spanish will also massively lose out.
Virtually every single EU country will lose out if they try to put tariffs on EU goods, which is why they now have this plan in place to make sure a no deal is managed in the medium term.
In terms of the deal we are currently examining, it;s not a trade deal it's a deal in relation to how we leave, and tbh I really don't care, we just need to leave.
As for a trade deal that is in everyones interest and there is no argument from antone regarding that, as every country wants to continue ding as much trade as possible and the UK is one of the laegest markets in Europe, and one which the EU has a massive surplus with.
The EU would have to be really stupid not to try and sort out a trade deal, and the 14 points they have annouunced aim to manage Brexit, and to allow a window of opportunity in relation to a trade deal.
Your optimism is touching, but the EU would be have to be "really stupid" to treat the UK any differently than it treats any other nation in the world.
Brexit chaos appears to have calmed down the exit movements in other EU nations. Why would they want to fan those flames?
As to the UK remaining a large market for EU nations, that depends on how the economy fares moving forward.
Last I read, about half of the financial service jobs moving to Europe involved asset management and investment firms. That can't be good.
"The biggest winners of Brexit—Dublin, Frankfurt, and Paris—have proved to be at least as effective at pulling business in as the Brexiteers have been at pushing business out."
"But Britain’s job losses are not just about Brexit. While the decision to leave the single market, resurrect tariffs with trade partners, and boot foreign workers has certainly left the U.K. a less desirable place to do business, much of the movement out of the U.K. has been a matter of pro-business reform and repositioning by EU competitors."
UK's technology industry "is feeling the pain of Brexit, as founders leave a United Kingdom that has lost its grip on foreign talent and capital."
An eye-catching van roamed the streets of London with the message: “Dear start-ups, keep calm and move to Berlin.”
"Since then, Silicon Allee, as it’s called, has blossomed as founders of financial tech, health tech, and social media companies have come in waves to one of Europe’s cooler and cheaper cities."
The article describes the strategies various EU nations are using to attract businesses.
Though clearly, the UK is a significant market for EU good and services, none of these strategies involve advocating for favorable trade deals for the UK.
Why would they, really?
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