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Old 12-26-2018, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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One of the pet theories about Jewish intelligence (which over the world average is only about 10% if that) is that the ones who migrated as the warning bells began ringing were brighter than the ones who were led like sheep to the slaughter. But Jews are not that much more intelligent than everyone else; just harder working, more organized and more dedicated to family and education. Those are choices anyone can make.

You bring up an interesting point. Let There Be Water: Israel’s Solution for a Water-Starved World by Seth M. Siegel explores Israel's development of scarce water resources. Water was perceived as being a major barrier to Israel's growth; until Israelis defeated the problem.
Why is growth a good thing?

That is a very general term.
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Old 12-27-2018, 04:41 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Why is growth a good thing?

That is a very general term.
Beats large-scale human misery. You know the upper class is always going to do fine for itself. A rising tide lifts all boats.
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Old 12-27-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Hmmm, let's see...what ideology keeps the Middle East a perpetual **** hole?
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Old 12-27-2018, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This thread has degenerated and rational discussion is impossible. I'm sorry I opened it.
Your premise from the start was to blame the victims for not helping themselves using a NY Times Opinion piece and neglecting the most important point in the article.


Do you still believe that we are not instrumental in the destruction of Yemen.


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What is most infuriating is that the hunger is caused not by drought or extreme weather, but by cynical and failed policies in Riyadh and Washington. The starvation does not seem to be an accidental byproduct of war, but rather a weapon in it. Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, backed by the United States, are trying to inflict pain to gain leverage over and destabilize the Houthi rebels. The reason: The Houthis are allied with Iran.
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Your premise from the start was to blame the victims for not helping themselves using a NY Times Opinion piece and neglecting the most important point in the article.

Do you still believe that we are not instrumental in the destruction of Yemen.
I do blame Radical Islam. At its best, observant as opposed to Radical Islam does not have a great work ethic. Individuals of course differ but the constant prayer breaks do take away from the work environment. Churchill, in evaluating the then-colony of Sudan famously wrote (link): "Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live." Some of the rest of his rant is unprintable and I don't subscribe to it.

Radical Islam adds material violence to the already unpromising mix. The U.S. was not instrumental in fostering this culture.
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Beats large-scale human misery. You know the upper class is always going to do fine for itself. A rising tide lifts all boats.
What does that mean?

Growth for the sake of growth is not a good thing, as is sacrificing the well being of people to expand global competition.

You can’t argue for general growth without explaining why and for what.
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Hey Aliya (wink wink), our nation is a steaming pile of ****. We have no money. We have no food. Our home is rubble. We have no clothing and only contaminated water. Hoards of raging AK-47 wielding militants/thieves/thugs are prowling the streets. Do you think we should have another kid on top of our nine who are hungry, miserable, naked, starving to death, and contracting diseases right now?
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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From this snippet and reading the article, these problems are self-inflicted. These people are desperately poor and yet they reproduce eight children. There is no economic activity to speak of. The main specialty appears to be inter-tribal warfare.
The solution is to lace their drinking supply with birth control hormones. Then they can be desperately poor without 8 children.
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Hey Aliya (wink wink), our nation is a steaming pile of ****. We have no money. We have no food. Our home is rubble. We have no clothing and only contaminated water. Hoards of raging AK-47 wielding militants/thieves/thugs are prowling the streets. Do you think we should have another kid on top of our nine who are hungry, miserable, naked, starving to death, and contracting diseases right now?
Great point. Don't any of the Yemeni factions think of building anything constructive, or only killing people?
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Great point. Don't any of the Yemeni factions think of building anything constructive, or only killing people?
Don’t you have any understanding that people don’t want that.

The Soviets, Americans, and Saudis terrorize then and you have the arrogance to say they should build something?

They are poor because that is where external forces want them to be.
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